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I understand that teams in these contracts are paying for future production, not past production. If I’m going to give you like $100M, I’d like to have some past production. Patrick Williams has done some stuff, but like that’s just… if that’s the number, if that ends up being true and the Vassell deal ends up being the comp that his agents go to, that’s a lot of cheese.

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[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's a #4 overall pick that plays excellent defense and can guard almost every position and is an excellent 3 point shooter? And he's young af? Pay the man. Or trade him to someone who will (please give him to Portland, we'll give you Jerami Grant for him and Lonzo plus our FRP back).

It always cracks me up when people think someone hasn't earned it simply due to them not being a primary ball handler or offense initiator. As if that's the only skillset that is rare to find.

[–] Just-Efficiency3129@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He averages 10/4/2 lmfaoooooo

[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you're mad at him because your GM is dumb enough to prioritize demar derozan over him in the shot taking pecking order? dude's efficiency is great. i don't think warriors fans were complaining about having a guy like draymond on the squad while making 25M+ a year and averaging 10 points or less a game (on way worse efficiency)

[–] Just-Efficiency3129@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simple would you pay him 25 mill a year? I didn’t think so. Also draymond makes all defense teams and is a great passer patrick Williams is a shit passer and bad rebounder

[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yes i would pay patrick williams 25M a year lmao. i REALLY hope bulls management is as dumb as you are here. your loss will be someone elses gain.

patrick williams would make an all defense team if he was actually on a good team. the mismash pieces on the bulls makes me want to cry looking at it. y'all have squandered the value that pat could bring while on a rookie scale contract.

[–] Just-Efficiency3129@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you are so delusional 100% you have never actually watched him play the eye test is somehow WORSE than the already shit stats

[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

i've watched patrick williams play plenty. he's without a doubt the single most valuable asset your entire franchise has. but whatever, this makes me feel more hopeful that Portland can land him in RFA next year (or at this years trade deadline).

[–] paatreek@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You are so delusional it's not even funny. As bad as the Bulls FO you are 10x more clueless.

[–] Muted_Dog7317@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pay him $200 million when Grant Williams went for $54 million with a similar skill set?

[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

idk about 200 million lol. but he's worth at least what devin fucking vassell just got.

and grant williams isn't half the defender that pat will is.

[–] Muted_Dog7317@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d much rather have Vassell. He’s a much better all around player who still gives a lot on defense.

Who do you think Pat Will is? He’s not DPOY candidate or the best defender on his team. He’s a good defender but not elite.

[–] TheRealDevDev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

agree to disagree. i'd take pat williams over vassell 10/10 times. you can always find a 6'5" wing that can dribble and shoot a little. what's actually rare is having a forward sized beast who can guard every player on the court and doesn't make mistakes (while being money from 3 on offense).

[–] Just-Efficiency3129@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

PWIll makes tons of mistakes like evry fucking game holy shit thank you for admitting you've never seen him play a game. I've see seen literally dozens of games where he is completely useless lmfao

[–] Muted_Dog7317@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I mean you say Vassell can shoot a little but he takes more than double the attempts of Pat Williams from 3 and shoots 39%. He’s also got a 6’10 wingspan and can play-make, and defend multiple positions. It’s not a common skillset

[–] Just-Efficiency3129@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Uh grant Williams had elite defense against KD and Embiid in the playoffs