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“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Hope and change was always a lie to just get into office and then hand it all to businesses. I mean fuck the ACA insurance mandate was basically holding citizens hostage and forcing them to pay healthcare insurance providers whether the insurance actually left them with enough money leftover to use their "access" to healthcare or not.

Fuck all the navel gazing about how it would bring insurance costs down. A public option would have done more.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A public option would have done more.

Yes, it would have. Damn it, Obama, why did you vote against...oh wait.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He's literally at a fundraiser with a bunch of pro-business fucks giving this mealy-mouthed speech. He literally expanded all the worst parts of the Bush admin which are now being pointed at US citizens like mass surveillance.

No he didn't explicitly vote for it himself, but he admitted himself that if he had run in the 80's he would have been considered a Republican. For fucks sake, "Obamacare" was actually "Romneycare," can we stop acting like the entire party apparatus as a whole doesn't deep throat big business? Because it fucking does and it doesn't matter if he didn't directly vote for that himself, he's still part and parcel to the people who make it this fucking bad. That's literally the people he is giving a speech to here.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

I don't even disagree with your points on where the party was or is, or how left Obama really is/was, but the neutering of the ACA to what we got wasn't Obama's fault. It barely got through even as a Republican-based idea, and from then for two terms on any other efforts were subjected to "just vote no" mentality.

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