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Basically the title. Replace Murray with Trae. Contracts stay the same. Are the Nuggets better or worse now? I’m talking about Trae Young of the Atlanta Hawks by the way

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[–] HotspurJr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Much worse, unless you hypothesize that Trae become a player we've only seen in short spurts in his entire career: a guy who is locked in on defense and plays hard after he passes the ball.

Trae is really really good with the ball in his hands. He, for his career, has been largely mediocre when it's not in his hands, on both sides of the floor.

With Jokic you don't really want the ball in Trae's hands.

[–] silliputti0907@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Do yall even watch the Nuggets last season? There were many times where Jokic sat or even with him on court that, he would let Jamal run the offense.

You're overthinking it. Think about what Murray does and if Trae can do it.

Run PNR? Trae can do it better.

Run the offense while Jokic sits? Trae can do it better.

Close out games? Murray has done it in higher stakes, but Trae isn't scared of the moment either.

Trae is a more consistent scorer and undebatably better passer. Defense is the only downgrade, which people constantly mis-attribute in these debates. He takes a lot of bad shots, which Jokic would be able to help. He's not a cutter, but he can score from anywhere and is a great catch-and-shooter.

[–] tacomonday12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He's not a cutter, but he can score from anywhere and is a great catch-and-shooter.

So, eliminates the biggest strength of the Nuggets offense?

Run PNR? Trae can do it better.

No, not with a center that should handle the ball and take more shots than him in the PNR. You're just assuming that Trae will change his most defining traits as a basketball player and become an enthusiastic mid-play passer and off-ball cutter.

Run the offense while Jokic sits? Trae can do it better.

Not really sure why the Nuggets would sacrifice their entire unselfish offensive ethos , interior finishing, hustle, defense, and rebounding for 36 minutes (Jokic time) in exchange for better bench offense.

Close out games? Murray has done it in higher stakes, but Trae isn't scared of the moment either.

Everything after the "but" is hope/assumption vs proven track record.

[–] CallMePapi930@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You’re assuming a lot about Trae who has been the man since day 1, but Trae wants to win and not necessarily as the man. If the Hawks don’t improve significantly this year, which I think they will, Trae will ask for a trade and he would gladly go to a team with a top 10 guy. Trae hasn’t had many options in Atlanta especially with Nate McMillan coaching. You’ll be surprised by what you see form trae this season under Snyder

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