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For example I looked up Kenyon Martin today. I remember him being an all-star so I figured he must have had multiple 20/10 seasons. Turns out he never averaged more than 17 ppg and only got 10 rpg one season.

Muggsy Bogues surprised me positively. I thought he was just a role player like Early Boykins. Turns out he had several seasons averaging over 8 apg and a couple seasons averaging over 10 apg.

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[–] maverickhistorian@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Jason Kidd finishing 3rd all time in three point makes when he retired, 60% of Wilts shots were fadeaway jump shots

[–] Maleficent-Owl-2390@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Where did you find that Wilt stat?

[–] disconnectedmadafaka@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] drmr623@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s a horrible take. Wilt did that mostly against garbage competition. Shaq is the most dominant force to ever step on a court. Won twice as many titles as wilt in arguably the toughest era.

[–] BigFatM8@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Wilt beat Prime Kareem. he was a much more skillful scorer than Shaq and a better playmaker as well, his sixers team broke the record for wins in a regular season. he was constantly facing a Celtics team that had multiple HOFs.

Gobert would be like the 5th best defender if he played in the 60s/70s. plus his deficiencies in the post would be enhanced in a league where post-play was so important.

[–] WembyFinalsMVP2027@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biggest nephew award goes to ^^

[–] drmr623@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wilt only won 2 titles in the most garbage era. Cry about it. Rudy Gobert would look like bill Russell in the 60s.

[–] WembyFinalsMVP2027@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’ve once again outdone yourself with the nephew takes. I’m not even gonna bother responding seriously because you HAVE to be trolling at this point lol

[–] drmr623@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because there’s no way you can argue that that wasn’t the least competitive era without looking stupid.

[–] CRT_SUNSET@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Older heads here will remember when he was called Ason Kidd ‘cause he had no J.

[–] der_ninong@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

so mavs were lying about the "three J's"

[–] HeyItsChase@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah his 3pt shot was developed.

[–] cachris3@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jason Kidd shot 5 3’s a game by his 2nd year in the league at a 35 % clip. His career average is 35%. He’s always had it, only difference is he became more dependent on it as his athleticism dwindled

[–] imblo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

33.6% more precisely, and his second year was with the shortened three point line.

He didn't always have it. Even his free throw percentage early in his career (usually a good indicator of whether a player can develop a dependable long range shot) was quite low. A lot of his development came through reps and hard work.

[–] cletoreyes01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His three point shooting was alright even in his prime. What was truly atrocious about his scoring repertoire and earned him the nickname "Ason" was his midrange shooting. Kidd's FGA during his prime were 40% from the midrange and he was converting them in a sub-40% rate.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kiddja01.html

[–] RIPDrRivers@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He was below average from 3 for 8 out of his first 11 seasons

[–] EngineQuick6169@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

And the rest were inside hand finger rolls somehow

[–] Usual_Adhesiveness92@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

50 PPG and 60% of his shits were fade aways.

I gotta go watch some wilt

[–] Overall-Palpitation6@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Varelixz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] eightslipsandagully@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You should have been more brutal and said he's made it past the second round of the playoffs

[–] maroonmartian9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know he develop his 3 pts when he was in Dallas. But was surprised he was that high.

[–] Sullan08@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He made plenty of 3s beforehand. He maxed out at 2 though, it's not like the 3pt list was that insane by the time he retired. He's gonna get lapped 100 times over in the next 10 years.

[–] cstar84@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Where’d you find that wilt stat