Kevin Johnson
He averaged more points and assists than other great point guards like Kidd, Nash, and CP3
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Reggie Miller. Thought he was a multiple 20+ scorer over the years and was 1st tier all nba, but only had 5 all star appearances to go with it.
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For some reason, I thought Craig Ehlo was a multi-time All-Star with Cleveland.
Turns out he averaged 9 ppg for his career and never made it once
Popular name because of the player and team who ripped him apart game after game.
same but because i thought craig ehlo and dan majerle were the same person
Did you confuse him with Mark Price?
Clyde Drexler's offensive rebounding numbers
He was getting as many OREB as Reggie Miller was getting total rebounds
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I had no idea about this until I read this. I've seen a handful of Clyde games on NBA Classics and some Youtube hilights, but I'd never noticed offensive rebounding. Great stat.
Jason Kidd finishing 3rd all time in three point makes when he retired, 60% of Wilts shots were fadeaway jump shots
And the rest were inside hand finger rolls somehow
50 PPG and 60% of his shits were fade aways.
I gotta go watch some wilt
Older heads here will remember when he was called Ason Kidd ‘cause he had no J.
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Where’d you find that wilt stat
Which is why wilt > shaq imo
That’s a horrible take. Wilt did that mostly against garbage competition. Shaq is the most dominant force to ever step on a court. Won twice as many titles as wilt in arguably the toughest era.
Biggest nephew award goes to ^^
Wilt only won 2 titles in the most garbage era. Cry about it. Rudy Gobert would look like bill Russell in the 60s.
You’ve once again outdone yourself with the nephew takes. I’m not even gonna bother responding seriously because you HAVE to be trolling at this point lol
Because there’s no way you can argue that that wasn’t the least competitive era without looking stupid.
Wilt beat Prime Kareem. he was a much more skillful scorer than Shaq and a better playmaker as well, his sixers team broke the record for wins in a regular season. he was constantly facing a Celtics team that had multiple HOFs.
Gobert would be like the 5th best defender if he played in the 60s/70s. plus his deficiencies in the post would be enhanced in a league where post-play was so important.
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Shareef Abdur-Rahim was lowkey solid wit it, Elton Brand has to be the biggest surprise with how good bro lowkey was when you go back and look at it.
Raja Bell was a bucket
You never hear much talk about Nate Thurmond, but he averaged 20.5 ppg and 22.0 rpg in his best season, with several other seasons in similar territory. I found that pretty crazy. On paper he should be a candidate for all-time starting 5 considerations, probably in the PF spot since it's the thinner spot compared to C. On paper he was Rodman with 20 ppg scoring, which would be the best 4 ever.
On the other hand, it looks like rebounding stats were inflated across the board back then when you consider what Russell and Wilt were also doing in the 60s.
you can't really compare 60s stats to 90s stats. there were ridiculous amounts of missed shots, high pace, and very defined roles compared to today, so tons of rebounds for the taking for big men. Also on average, played north of 40mpg, and even 45mpg at his peak.
Thurmond averaged 22rpg in 1967-68, grabbing 1121 shots in 2222 minutes (across 51 games). The big difference is the San Francisco Warriors played at a pace of 123.6 possessions per 48 minutes, while the league average last season was 99.1, meaning nearly 25% more possessions.
If he played the exact same amount of minutes at a league average pace today, you'd be looking at about 900 rebounds in 51 games, or about 14.6 rebounds per 36 minutes, roughly the 5th highest rebounds per 36 minutes in the NBA, below Drummond (18.8), Adams (15.4), Capela (14.9), and Valanciunas (14.7), among those who played at least half of last season.
It's also unknown how many of those are offensive rebounds and many could be tips off his own misses, which would explain a rather low FG%, even for that era.
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Since you referenced to Rodman, who played massive minutes but in an era where pace was in the low 90s rather than 120+, his rebounds per minute and per possession absolutely clear Thurmond by several points throughout his prime.
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It's recent but I don't remember Paul Milsap being a multiple time All Star with the Hawks
What he was their best player
I know, I just didn't recall that he was All Star level, let alone multiple time. Something lost in my memory banks.
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Apparently dwayne wade never played in the nba and has no stats. I was shocked when I looked him up.
That’s because you looked up the twin bro of NBA player Dean Wade. It happens to a lot of people, don’t worry.
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Rudy Gay all time points
Mark Eaton’s blocked shot average.
His '84-85 season was ridiculous. Who the hell gets 5.6 blocks a game while playing all 82 games.
Holy shit you just kept going
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Andre Drummond is gonna be Gen B or C’s nephew check. Looking at his highlight reel and assist numbers they’re gonna wonder why he’s not a hall of famer.
I was just checking Kyle Korver, i thought he was a bigger scoring guy but he averaged over 14ppg once, over 12ppg three times and over 10ppg 7 seasons out of 17. That got me shocked
Peja Stojakovic. Dude was right up there in points per game for a couple of seasons in the mid-2000s. I only saw the tail end of his career and never knew it.
Finished 3rd in MVP voting one year. Peja was lethal.
One of the most surprising has to be Tim Duncan’s free throw percentages throughout his career. He’ll shoot 60% one year, 75 the next, then 65, then 78. Despite a decent sample size every year, there are often huge fluctuations. I can’t think of anyone else that fluctuates so wildly (some others improve a lot, but it’s usually not up and down like that)
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Cam Reddish. was excited LA got him, had no idea he actually sucked lol
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Tree Rollins
It would be easier to explain if yall here play bbgm
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