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I'm just ranking them by peaks.
Dirk is to me a top 3-5 scorer in NBA history with some of the best volume and efficiency in the playoffs. He can score in the low and high post, is the best midrange shooter ever, an elite finisher, and can come off screens for jumpers. He's the 2nd best spacer of all time and it allowed him to anchor some of the best offenses in the league despite playing with defensively slanted teams. Malone is a far better defender and passer, but Dirk's impact as a scorer, shooter, and spacer is too much.
Also Dirk isn't a pedo.
Funny you mention Dirk being a top 3-5 scorer in NBA history as a reason to rank him over Karl too.
Malone never won a scoring title but finished runner up 5 times. (Finished 3rd three times, 4th twice and 5th three times).As a point of reference that’s 13 seasons in the top 5 for PPG, Dirk Nowitzki finished top 5 for PPG once.
Malone top 5 in PPG 13x. Dirk top 5 in PPG 2x.
Nowitzki's best scoring season (26.6PPG in 2005-06) would be Malone's 10th highest scoring season!
Malone, 27.0+ PPG, 8x. Dirk, 27.0+ PPG, 0x.
It's always Utah fans who use raw ppg especially only in the regular season without any context of efficiency to boost either their pedophile or overrated anti vaxxer.
Dirk from 2009-2011 in the playoffs: 29 points per 75 on + 8 relative TS%
Malone from 1991-1993 in the playoffs(his best playoff scoring stretch): 26 points per 75 on + 4 relative TS%.
These stats don't also mention how Dirk was a FAR more versatile scorer than malone. This allowed Dirk to maintain his efficiency against elite defenses while the Pedo couldn't.
3-5 scorer ever is a stretch but Malone was a efficient scorer too but had huge playoff dropoffs. I feel like Stockton gets overrated which makes Malone seem less valuable than he was
Top 3-5 isn't a stretch when you consider his volume, efficiency, and versatility.
I will give the pedo credit on carrying overrated ass Stockton though.
Steph, Lebron, Michael, Durant, Shaq is already 5 id put ahead.
Malone (90-97) 27-11-4 on 59% TS
Dirk (05-11) 25-9-3 on 59% TS
Steph? I can't see that.
You're going to have to adjust those numbers for pace and relative efficiency. Also Dirk after 2008 completely changed as a player. Using his 2005-2007 playoff numbers is very misinformed.
Curry (2014-2023): 26.9 ppg on 116 TS+
Playoffs: 27.0 ppg on 61 TS (we don’t have relative stats)
Peak season 30.1 ppg (scoring champion) on 124 TS+
2x scoring title
Dirk (2002-2012): 24.1 ppg on 109 TS+
Playoffs 26.2 ppg on 58 TS
Peak season: 24.6 ppg on 112 TS+
0x scoring title
How can you see anything other than Steph > Dirk?
These are just regular season, i didnt calculate rTS but Malone was +6-9 those years
Don’t forget to add that Dirk’s best teammate in his career was probably pre-MVP Nash while Malone got to play with a top 5 PG of all time for almost his entire career, then tried piggy backing off Shaq/Kobe for a ring and failed
There’s no argument for Dirk being a top 5 scorer. You got MJ, KD, Curry, Lebron, Shaq, Harden, Kobe, and Kareem are all better scorers. Then there’s like 5 more you can make an argument for.
Dirk definitely a better scorer at his peak than Kobe, curry, and harden.
Ok bro, now you just sound dumb. Curry averaged 30 points on 67 ts%. How could you possibly argue Dirk was a better scorer.
Dirk from 2009-2011 in the playoffs: 29 points per 75 on + 8 relative TS%
Curry from 2015-2017 in the playoffs: 28 points per 75 on + 7.5 relative TS%.
Dirk also played with far worse offensive teammates than Curry. Dirk is also a more versatile scorer than Steph.
Steph literally had entire defenses scheming to stop him. Dirk face that at times, but not to the level of Steph. There’s no way in hell you could argue dirk to be a better scorer than steph.