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We see after every season how people turn on players in the recent years after giving them so much praise and how they uplift one player after one season

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[–] Paper_Okami@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

he's easily the biggest reason why that team is as good as it is.

[–] Otherwise_Warning922@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i've watched him drop plenty of duds in important playoff games but still have his team win the game

hes had plenty of clutch moments too but most of the time the need for those moments shouldnt have existed in the first place

[–] Paper_Okami@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You're holding him to a literally impossible standard. He literally has put the team on his back numerous times.

"those moments shouldn't have existed in the first place" this shows that you have ZERO interest in arguing in good faith, "yeah he won the game, but i'm gonna move the goal posts" I hate using the term, but you're clearly a hater. No interest in good faith arguments.

All the all time greats have had horrible moments in their career. Bird was pretty terrible in the first during his first championship in the finals. Kareem failed to make the playoffs in his prime a bunch. Kobe lost the 2004 finals through his poor play and they won game 7 in 2010, despite him shooting like complete garbage. The Raptors and Bucks wouldn't have won without a superteam falling apart. Curry choked bad against the Cavs, during that one year. Magic had moments bad enough that he was called "tragic" KD choked against the warriors and last year.

[–] AgadorFartacus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No you haven't. The only players to average at least 25/5/5/1/1 over a 50-game playoff span are Giannis Antetokounmpo, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Dwyane Wade, Jayson Tatum.

[–] Otherwise_Warning922@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

using averages to counter a point about specific games makes no sense.

[–] AgadorFartacus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If he had anywhere close to as many "duds" as you implied, he wouldn't be in such impressive company.