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Sarah Katz, 21, had a heart condition and was not aware of the drink’s caffeine content, which exceeded that of cans of Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined, according to a legal filing

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[–] Orionza@lemmy.world 238 points 1 year ago (45 children)

I hope this lawsuit forces them to remove this. I'm sorry this young girl died. This isn't the first issue they had with this drink. My husband and I were discussing it months ago. He thought it was just lemonade - sugar, water, lemons. We didn't figure out why he was up all night. Later someone old him how much caffeine it has. We had no idea. It's dangerous to those with high bp.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (20 children)

I'm not going to lie when I first read the headline I thought this was probably a frivolous lawsuit but after reading the article I thought that stuff should get pulled.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's like that McDonald's hot coffee lawsuit. Poor lady was made a mockery of for ordering hot coffee because it sounds ridiculous at first but she had 2nd degree burns. It was recklessly hot, as was this drink recklessly produced and marketed.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

3rd degree groin burns that required grafts.

She initially asked for just 20k to cover her medical bills, and they instead offered like $800.

Also of note, that huge 2.7mil fine the jury found? Just the profits from 2 days of McDonald's coffee sales. The judge reduced it to $650k, but even that likely wasent paid as they settled out of court at that point.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was also discovered that McDonald's was aware of the danger of serving their coffee that hot, yet they continued to do so because it meant they had to give fewer free refills. If you have to wait 20 minutes for your coffee to cool down before you drink it, you're going to get less refills overall

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

The worst part of that is knowing they probably determined it's cheaper to settle injuries than keep it at the temps they were supposed to. I know corporations are soulless money making machines but that always feels extra dark to think about

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

IIRC their explanation was for take away, keeping the coffee hotter so it would last until you got home.

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought the specific wording in their documentation was because they wanted the smell of the coffee to fill the restaurant. Did McDonald's give refills of coffee?

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They did for seniors at the time

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny you should mention that. I use to work for the franchise owner who's brother-in-law (who also worked for the franchise) gave that woman the cup of coffee (or so he would say) when they were franchising with McDonalds. And guess where I was working at the time? Panera

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you working now I’m sure this streak isn’t over.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I had to guess based on external evidence, maybe Congress?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Okay that’s fucking funny.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also explains why the coffee is so bad. Heating coffee above a certain temp is just burning it.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

It should be brewed at 195-205 F, just a bit higher than McDonalds served it.

But normally it would quickly cool down after it’s brewed. Any burning from reaching that temp is from a hot plate exceeding the temp and burning the bits of oil and soot that are in contact with the plate. Water, and I assume coffee, can’t be heated above boiling at 212 F anyway, but the hot plate and carafe or urn parts can, and steam can, and oil can.

Anyway I’m just saying it would be reasonable for fresh and good-tasting coffee to be in that temperature range. But it’s only going to stay there for any length of time if it’s burned on a hot plate or, more ideally, dripped directly into an insulated container.

It’s more likely their coffee tastes like shit because it was badly roasted, ground months ago, has since gone stale and bitter, and is full of unnecessary added chemicals and preservatives, just like the rest of their shit food.

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly, her labia got fused together... Super fucked up burns.

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