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The NBA is being investigated by the United States Department of Justice over allegations the league attempted to sabotage Ice Cube’s Big3 league, according to TMZ Sports. The league has denied the allegations.

Ice Cube and Big3 co-founder Jeff Kwatinetz have met with Department of Justice lawyers regarding concerns the NBA may have engaged in anticompetitive behavior.

The allegations include the NBA interfering with sponsorship deals, discouraging television networks from broadcasting games, and making arbitrary rules to prevent players from joining the league, despite the NBA and Big3 seasons not overlapping.

The report also claims Big3 officials believe they have been “unfairly targeted by the NBA” and sources in the story say NBA owners have been discouraged from investing in Ice Cube’s league.

NBA spokesman Mike Bass told TMZ the allegations were “not true”.

“We have been supportive of the Big3 since its inception, but we declined to invest.”

The NBA would face a substantial fine if found guilty.

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[–] DyslexicAutronomer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

3v3 is also the most popular version of street ball.

I wonder why the NBA doesn't have mini-events during all-stars doing 1v1s and 3v3s, I am sure there are players who would LOVE to take part.

[–] Xc0liber@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not 1v1. The stake is too high and most players won't try it.

I just don't see every superstar willing to risk getting embarrassed on national TV.

[–] karspearhollow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They'll barely admit to playing 1 on 1 with each other in private.

[–] DyslexicAutronomer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Superstars at their peak most likely won't want to, but upcoming rookies and slightly washed vets will lineup to join to prove their value.

Although I won't exclude those skillful players who just want to show off their 1v1 skills, probably like a Luka or Kyrie if it's a short form and fun tourney.

Maybe even people with mad beef like Poole or Dillion Brooks will be interested to make a statement.

So many ways to sell it tbh.

[–] demsouls@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The NBA has become more like a business and less about basketball, in the sense that it only wants a 5v5 game as the NBA structures it. NBA will fine tune the on court product as it sees fit through the rule changes that led to open games and more dunks+3s and more scoring (less big men post play as evident from FIBA just past).

Some mentioned injuries or contractual obligations that bar players - that's just part of the business and contracts are based on CBA negotiations. Some mentioned that players didn't want to embarrass themselves especially the established players - probably true to an extent and they want to preserve their image of being worth their contract - part of the business. But I'd love to see someone like FVV go against Tobias Harris 1v1 to see who's overpaid, and I bet there are players who won't back down from a challenge.

What it boils down to is that the NBA as it's structured now is more about business. They want to expand the game internationally and they are doing the in season tournament, but the NBA game structure is defined in their 5v5 product. I don't see them tweaking it. And hopefully there are others that can compete with them because this monopoly business isn't great for basketball.

[–] Pun-Szu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

no they wouldn't, for the same reason why the stars don't do the dunk contest anymore and why they half ass the ASG. a lot of these dudes live through social media and they're afraid to get embarrassed.

[–] GaTech379@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Its definitely injury concerns lol

[–] rexgal@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think you’re right, MOST players would avoid a 1v1 or 3v3 contest during ASW. However, I do think you could find a few bench guys, or even GLeague guys who would take it seriously/competitive to try and make a name for themselves. Maybe casuals wouldn’t, but I would watch the shit out of that.

[–] DyslexicAutronomer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Plenty of players talk about enjoying and growing up playing streetball in that format, some even brag about being the best at it.

1v1s(sometimes 2v2/3v3s when its a grp issue) are also how many players use to settle beef and compare skills during practice.

It's nothing like the dunk contest where points are arbitrary.

I'm sure there will be players jumping in to prove themselves just for bragging rights if nothing else. (along with claiming their team is just holding them back, which is gonna be hilarious)

[–] blafricanadian@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is bullshit as players played in pro ams recently. It’s injury concerns

[–] RaciallyInsensitiveC@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Players play in non-nba games literally all the time. Injury concerns are always present. If they didn't want them playing in exhibition games, they wouldn't play in the actual all star game to begin with.

[–] MalakaiRey@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

There are insurance policies and contract obligations that dictate what events are optional, obligatory, or restricted.

These guys aren't allowed to ride motorcycles after hitting a certain salary. It really matters where and how these guys get injured.

Guys with personal chefs talking about "i cut myself in the kitchen...". lol don't be surprised these dudes are worried about covering their asses when they get hurt off the nba court.

[–] Handsome-Jim_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Have you watched an all start game?

They're not exactly going hard.

[–] cbreezy456@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bro huh?? Just making shit up 😭

[–] Organizatu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From f the police to begging them for help. What a piece of shit cube turned out to be.

[–] AfricanDeadlifts@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Police do not arbitrate lawsuits, he's meeting with lawyers. What are you talking about?

[–] Public-Product-1503@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We did have a couple good ASG in the last 5. Last years was so horrendous people forgot the previous good ones.

[–] tolkienbooks@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

all star game is 3v3 where retired Vets come back

[–] Edogawa1983@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They used to have that til people got injured

[–] CleverBunnyThief@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

3 v 3 1 veteran 1 rising star 1 WNBA 1 legend

Make it happen!

[–] blacksoxing@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love your post as it's a great question. I'll answer with this: When Lebron, KD, and all these other megastars do Pro-Ams and closed doors/limited capacity/camps/etc it's just...for fun. I remember last year hearing about Chet's injury occurring while playing against Lebron and my first thought was "WHERE WAS THIS???" They were just playing...for fun. I don't even think there was more than one clip of his injury shown at the time.

SO, I think of this like I think of my own damn job. If I'm on the clock doing work, it's work. If I'm asked by management to do work off the clock, I'm a bit mad, but I may still do it. I'm not volunteering to do it though - extra funding or "it's the life of a salaried employee".

If a friend though asks me to do my job for them...I'm giving them the advice and help they need. It's "fun" work to me at that point. My job is boring, but if you're wanting to know about it outside of my hours, I'm all for it.

I bet this is why someone like (insert popular NBA player) can't be bothered to do a 3x3 but signs up to represent their country. They can't be bothered to do the dunk contest but in warmup they're doing 360s with ease. Difference between fun and work.

[–] demsouls@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

NBA is less about fun or the game, it's more about the business, despite the fact that their business centres around the game itself.

[–] KazaamFan@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I loved 3v3 in my pick up days. It’s a much more efficient way of playing basketball, though I get when guys wanna do full. In my experience, for casual/amateur players, full court becomes more of a game of endurance than it is about basketball skill, hah.

[–] CO_PC_Parts@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

the nba used to sponsor "Hoop it Up" back in the late 90s into the 00's. It was HUGELY popular in some markets and in the beginning it was better run than Gus Macker.

But in later years we had waaaay more issues with Hoop it Up. One time they changed the location the NIGHT before the tourny was a huge pain in the ass. And One year they made us play a womens team because nobody signed up for the top gun league for women. We said we didn't want to play them so they told us it'd be a loss in pool play so we said fuck it and played them and beat them 21-4 and I got yelled at by one of the players moms for "going to hard" I told her we were forced to play them so there you go.

[–] kleenkong@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Same reason that the NFL stopped beach football. Injuries.