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Masterlist. 27/30 rankers submitted. This is our 10th annual predictions thread. Predictions are fun to look at now and a great way to lock in the general sentiment about teams early in the season. I recommend mobile users to open in your mobile browser (safari, chrome, etc.) if you are having difficulty viewing in an app. We are still looking for a ranker for the Clippers, Pelicans, and Raptors. You can apply at the link here.

#WESTERN CONFERENCE STANDINGS

Ranker 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
/u/Martinsek DEN MIN LAL PHX GSW LAC DAL OKC
/u/walterdog12 MEM DEN OKC PHX LAL SAC GSW DAL
/u/BasedGodProdigy DEN PHX MEM SAC GSW LAL LAC MIN
/u/Imsortofabigdeal DEN PHX GSW OKC LAC SAC LAL MIN
/u/JC_Frost DEN PHX GSW MEM DAL LAC LAL SAC
/u/PootieTooGood DEN PHX LAL GSW SAC LAC MEM OKC
/u/rps215 DEN PHX LAC MEM DAL LAL OKC GSW
/u/bigred27 DEN PHX GSW SAC MEM LAC LAL OKC
/u/x20mike07x DEN MEM PHX LAL SAC GSW OKC DAL
/u/swollencornholio DEN GSW PHX LAL SAC LAC OKC MEM
/u/PonchoHung LAC DEN PHX GSW LAL MIN MEM DAL
/u/imkunu DEN PHX LAL MEM GSW LAC SAC MIN
/u/JilJungJukk DEN PHX LAL DAL LAC GSW SAC OKC
/u/Projinator PHX DEN LAL MEM OKC GSW MIN SAC
/u/beefat99 DEN PHX LAC MEM SAC LAL HOU OKC
/u/Short_Bus_ DEN PHX LAL NOP GSW DAL LAC SAC
/u/flyingscissor DEN MIN PHX SAC MEM LAL LAC GSW
/u/Bird_and_Dog DEN PHX OKC DAL SAC NOP MIN MEM
/u/AnkitPancakes DEN GSW LAL PHX SAC MEM DAL OKC
/u/albinorhino21 DEN PHX GSW LAL OKC SAC MEM DAL
/u/JerKroSRL DEN PHX GSW LAL MEM LAC DAL OKC
/u/aCommonHorus DEN PHX MIN OKC LAL GSW SAC MEM
/u/DrTom DEN PHX GSW OKC SAC MIN UTA LAL
/u/N1celyDunn PHX DEN LAL MIN LAC SAC GSW MEM
/u/Uncle_Freddy DEN PHX LAL OKC MEM GSW DAL SAC
/u/NitroXYZ PHX DEN MIN GSW LAL OKC DAL MEM
/u/TopOfTheKey DEN PHX OKC DAL SAC NOP MIN MEM

#EASTERN CONFERENCE STANDINGS

Ranker 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
/u/Martinsek BOS MIL CLE NYK ATL PHI IND MIA
/u/walterdog12 MIL BOS NYK CLE PHI BKN MIA ATL
/u/BasedGodProdigy BOS MIL PHI CLE NYK MIA BKN ATL
/u/Imsortofabigdeal BOS MIL CLE ATL PHI MIA NYK IND
/u/JC_Frost BOS MIL CLE PHI NYK MIA BKN CHI
/u/PootieTooGood BOS CLE MIL ATL NYK PHI MIA ORL
/u/rps215 MIL BOS CLE ATL IND PHI MIA NYK
/u/bigred27 BOS MIL CLE PHI MIA NYK ATL ORL
/u/x20mike07x BOS MIL CLE PHI MIA NYK IND ORL
/u/swollencornholio MIL BOS MIA CLE PHI NYK ORL ATL
/u/PonchoHung MIL BOS MIA PHI CLE NYK ATL TOR
/u/imkunu MIL BOS MIA PHI NYK CLE IND ATL
/u/JilJungJukk BOS MIL CLE PHI MIA NYK ATL CHI
/u/Projinator BOS MIL ATL CLE MIA NYK IND WAS
/u/beefat99 MIL BOS PHI CHI TOR MIA BKN ATL
/u/Short_Bus_ MIL BOS CLE PHI NYK MIA TOR CHI
/u/flyingscissor MIL BOS CLE NYK PHI IND CHI MIA
/u/Bird_and_Dog MIL BOS NYK CLE PHI BKN MIA ATL
/u/AnkitPancakes BOS MIL CLE NYK PHI MIA ORL CHI
/u/albinorhino21 MIL BOS CLE PHI NYK ATL ORL MIA
/u/JerKroSRL BOS MIL MIA PHI CLE NYK ATL BKN
/u/aCommonHorus BOS MIL CLE NYK PHI MIA ATL CHI
/u/DrTom MIL BOS CLE NYK PHI BKN MIA ATL
/u/N1celyDunn BOS MIL PHI MIA CLE ATL NYK TOR
/u/Uncle_Freddy MIL BOS MIA CLE PHI NYK ORL BKN
/u/NitroXYZ BOS MIL CLE MIA ORL NYK PHI ATL
/u/TopOfTheKey PHI BOS MIL NYK ORL IND ATL CLE

#STANDINGS SUMMARY

Seed DEN PHX LAL GSW MEM SAC OKC LAC DAL MIN NOP UTA HOU
1st Seed 22 3 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
2nd Seed 5 17 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0
3rd Seed 0 4 9 6 1 0 3 2 0 2 0 0 0
4th Seed 0 3 4 3 5 3 4 0 3 1 1 0 0
5th Seed 0 0 4 4 4 8 2 3 2 0 0 0 0
6th Seed 0 0 4 5 1 4 1 7 1 2 2 0 0
7th Seed 0 0 3 2 3 3 3 3 5 3 0 1 1
8th Seed 0 0 1 2 6 4 7 0 4 3 0 0 0
Total 27 27 25 24 22 22 20 16 15 13 3 1 1
Top-3/4 27/27 24/27 9/13 8/11 3/8 0/3 3/7 3/3 0/3 4/5 0/1 0/0 0/0
Seed BOS MIL CLE PHI NYK MIA ATL ORL BKN IND CHI TOR WAS
1st Seed 14 12 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2nd Seed 13 13 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3rd Seed 0 2 14 3 2 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
4th Seed 0 0 6 9 6 2 3 0 0 0 1 0 0
5th Seed 0 0 3 9 6 4 1 2 0 1 0 1 0
6th Seed 0 0 1 3 9 7 2 0 3 2 0 0 0
7th Seed 0 0 0 1 2 5 6 4 3 4 1 1 0
8th Seed 0 0 1 0 1 3 8 3 2 1 5 2 1
Total 27 27 26 26 26 26 21 9 8 8 7 4 1
Top-3/4 27/27 27/27 15/21 4/13 2/8 5/7 1/4 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0

#Finals Champions

Team Count
MIL 13
DEN 7
BOS 5
LAL 1
NYK 1

#Finals Match Ups

Match Up Count
DEN- MIL 8
DEN- BOS 6
PHX- MIL 4
PHX- BOS 2
GSW- BOS 1
DEN- PHI 1
LAL- MIL 1
LAL- BOS 1
MIN- MIL 1
DEN- NYK 1
GSW- MIL 1

#Western Conference Finals Match Ups

Match Up Count
DEN- PHX 12
DEN- GSW 4
DEN- LAL 4
DEN- LAC 1
GSW- PHX 1
MEM- LAL 1
SAC- PHX 1
DEN- DAL 1
SAC- MIN 1
DEN- OKC 1

#Eastern Conference Finals Match Ups

Match Up Count
BOS- MIL 19
MIL- MIA 2
MIL- CLE 2
BOS- CLE 1
PHI- CLE 1
MIL- NYK 1
NYK- BOS 1

#Playoffs Summary

Round DEN PHX LAL GSW MEM SAC OKC LAC DAL MIN NOP UTA HOU
1st Round 27 27 25 24 22 22 20 16 15 13 3 1 1
2nd Round 27 25 14 12 4 7 4 5 6 3 1 0 0
Conference Finals 23 14 5 5 1 2 1 1 1 1 0 0 0
Finals 16 6 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Round BOS MIL CLE PHI NYK MIA ATL ORL BKN IND CHI TOR WAS
1st Round 27 27 26 26 26 26 21 9 8 8 7 4 1
2nd Round 27 26 18 7 10 14 2 0 1 2 1 0 0
ECF 21 24 4 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Finals 10 15 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

#AWARDS

#Most Valuable Player

MVP Votes
Nikola Jokić 10
Jayson Tatum 5
Luka Dončić 5
Giannis Antetokounmpo 4
Anthony Davis 2
Jalen Brunson 1

Defensive Player of the Year

DPOY Votes
Evan Mobley 7
Anthony Davis 5
Bam Adebayo 4
Jaren Jackson Jr. 4
Brook Lopez 2
Victor Wembanyama 2
Frank Ntilikina 1
Giannis Antetokounmpo 1
Rudy Gobert 1

Rookie of the Year

ROY Votes
Victor Wembanyama 19
Chet Holmgren 6
Scoot Henderson 2

#6th Man of the Year

6MOY Votes
Immanuel Quickley 8
Malik Monk 4
Chris Paul 3
Norman Powell 2
Al Horford 1
Bobby Portis 1
Caris LeVert 1
Derrick White 1
Jonathan Kuminga 1
Josh Hart 1
Jrue Holiday 1
Malcolm Brogdon 1
Naz Reid 1
Robert Williams 1

Coach of the Year

COY Votes
Mark Daigneault 9
Michael Malone 3
Quin Snyder 3
Joe Mazzulla 2
Rick Carlisle 2
Adrian Griffin 1
Billy Donovan 1
Chris Finch 1
Frank Vogel 1
Jamahl Mosley 1
Mike Brown 1
Taylor Jenkins 1
Tom Thibodeau 1

#Most Improved Player

MIP Votes
Jordan Poole 4
Tyrese Maxey 3
Alperen Şengün 2
Austin Reaves 2
Cade Cunningham 2
Jalen Suggs 2
Jonathan Kuminga 2
Josh Giddey 2
Mikal Bridges 2
Bruce Brown 1
Franz Wagner 1
Markelle Fultz 1
Payton Pritchard 1
RJ Barrett 1
Tyrese Haliburton 1

#Most Surprising Team

Most Surprising Team Votes
ORL 7
MIN 4
OKC 4
BKN 2
NYK 2
DAL 1
HOU 1
IND 1
LAC 1
MEM 1
NOP 1
POR 1
SAC 1

#Most Disappointing Team

Most Disappointing Team Votes
DAL 8
MIN 3
NOP 3
ATL 2
MEM 2
CLE 1
IND 1
LAC 1
MIA 1
NYK 1
PHI 1
SAC 1
UTA 1
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[–] rps215@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is probably the hardest standings prediction I’ve done in my 10 years as a ranker

[–] DrTom@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro have the rankings really been going for 10 years? No way we've been doing this that long, right?

[–] Bigred27@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I noted this in my blurb for the rankings, realizing we've been doing this for a decade hit me like a truck. I've never felt so fuckin' old in my life LOL.

[–] swollencornholio@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's definitely the largest variety of teams we've had in the playoffs. I had to add two columns for both the East and West this year.

[–] mr_grission@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely anything could happen, which means the Warriors are gonna somehow end up winning

[–] wichita_gator@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Good to know that my first prediction will probably be the hardest I'll have to do.

[–] Octavian_202@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It must hurt to have Dallas as the most disappointing team. I hope not.

[–] MRC1986@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Surprised the Sixers only got one vote for most disappointing team. But maybe expectations have fallen off so far already that no one even believes in them anymore. Seems like that from the standings predictions.

[–] rps215@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I put Minnesota but it’s them or Sacramento for me. Someone in the west has to be it imo. I just don’t see how Dallas got worse to be the most disappointing

[–] BASEDME7O2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Dallas has Luka and kyrie and that’s basically it. Their defense is gonna be horrendous and their front court is abysmal. And Luka is a great player but he’s definitely gotten a bit over rated. He’s pretty much always considered top 4 in the league and people act like he’s better than prime harden as a pg.That can’t be the case if you can’t even get your team into the play ins, any top 4 player should be able to do that on any roster, and prime harden was dragging some terrible rockets teams to high seeds every year. Kyrie is not a consistent playoff scorer and he doesn’t provide much else. I just don’t see how they could beat the wolves who have probably still the most impactful defensive player in the league, are going to have KAT back, have ant looking like a budding superstar, and have a ton of really solid role players everywhere else. The only way I see them doing well is if Luka makes the leap to like 2019 harden level where he had arguably the best offensive season this millennium with “worst contract in the league” Chris Paul who could barely move as his second option and was basically the only guy who could reliably create a shot or even dribble the ball on the team and he still dragged them to 50+ wins and took two games off the kd warriors while averaging 35 and clearly outplaying Steph. And I just don’t think he’s that level of player yet. Like prime harden teams pretty much never even lost in the first round in a super stacked west and he had some pretty terrible supporting casts, you’re not that level of player if you can’t even get your team into the play ins.

Even healthy Zion had the Pelicans as the first seed for a bit then without him they missed the play ins entirely.