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Champions League 2023/24 - Matchday 3

## Galatasaray S.K. 1-3 FC Bayern München

Match Info:

Date: October 24th, 2023

Time: 18:30 CET

Venue: RAMS Park, Istanbul


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Recent Form (right most recent):

FC Bayern München: WDWWW

Galatasaray S.K.: WWWWW


Current Champions League Table (prior to this weeks Matchday):

Team GP Wins Draws Loses GD Points
1. FC Bayern München 2 2 0 0 2 6
2. Galatasaray S.K. 2 1 1 0 1 4
3. FC København 2 0 1 1 -1 1
4. Manchester United 2 0 0 2 -2 0

Suspensions and Injuries:

FC Bayern München Galatasaray S.K. Player Status
Neuer - Injured
Goretzka - Injured
Gnabry - Injured
Guerreiro - Injured
Upamecano - Injured
  • |Icardi | Doubtful

Matchday Squads:

FC Bayern München

Starting Line-up:

Ulreich - Mazraoui, Kim, de Ligt, Davies - Kimmich, Laimar - Sané, Musiala, Coman - Kane

Substitutes:

Peretz - Choupo-Moting, Sarr, Müller, Tel, Krätzig, Pavlović

   

Galatasaray S.K.

Starting Line-up:

Muslera - Boey, Sanchez, Bardakcı, Karataş - Ayhan, Torrreira - Tete, Aktürkoğlu, Zaha - Icardi

Substitutes:

Güvenç - Angeliño, Demirbay, Mertens, Ziyech, Nelsson, Oliveira, Yılmaz, Ndombélé, Bakambu

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[–] timothymr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are so many talking points here but the first question I have:

  • What happened to Kimmich?

Like what's going on? Is he honing it in? Protesting because his manager got sacked and he's no longer the go-to for Tuchel? Unhappy that his mate was rumoured to be on the chopping block this summer?

I feel like his best years have been wasted which is a ridiculous thing to say considering what he has achieved but this guy should be a shout for the best midfielder in the world and he was there but something has happened this year where he has massively fallen off. Maybe that is a reactionary take but it's where I am.

Is he suffering from trying to do it all? He's taking on all this responsibility but fundamentally can't handle it without another quality midfielder protecting him.

As for him wearing the arm band, I get it's a largely empty symbol and it's more an administrative thing but tonight he wasn't good enough to wear the shirt let alone captain's armbands.

When there was all the talks of future captain and all that, the argument was "he's too hot headed" and it was always rebuffed with "so was Kahn, Effenberg, Van Bommel..." But now he doesn't strike me as the guy to rally the players and get them working in the way that De Ligt, Müller, shit even Goretzka does!

Maybe I'm just disappointed with the performance and his was notably frustrating. It's a frustration that stems from him being way off where he should be.

[–] prettybunbun@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He simply doesn’t have a good partner in midfield anymore.

Despite what he insists Kimmich is not a 6. He is far far better as an 8. At the moment Laimer has been playing better at RB and Kimmich has had to hold the defensive line when he’s in midfield struggling. Goretzka roams waaaay too far forwards and so Kimmich has to drop back.

If we get Palhinia, genuinely Kimmich can go forward, where he is best.

[–] OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

its what i argued in the daily discussion earlier today

kimmich is killing his own game by a combination of ego, wanting too much and lack of discipline/smarts

he demands the ball in situations he cant get out of

he tries to chase in the midfield despite being too slow to do so

he goes from side to side trying to help, but then opponents are open in the center

its just bad play, somebody needs to show him the tape and tell him that less is more

[–] The-Berzerker@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He doesn‘t have a choice because his midfield partner (either Goretzka or Laimer) is always completely invisible when we have possession and Kimmich has to do it on his own

[–] OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

nah, i am done making excuses

how is another midfielder going to help kimmich, when he is running towards our own goal with an attacker on him

if your name is not messi or thiago just dont do it, even amateurs get taught this basic stuff

make a run to offer yourself, if your opponent bites, you get outta there

but he keeps running, gets the ball and then drawing a foul or a backpass are the only options