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Seems like the downvote debate got another round on https://lemmy.zip/post/47242086/21088009 , so this could be useful

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I made that request on Lemmy and they turned me down. I wonder how I could switch my instance to piefed.

My Taylor Swift community is actually doing quite well with each post getting about 15-20 up items, but it's completely hidden because of all the downvoted from people who don't like her. It hurts the community

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there isn't a straightforward way to do so at the moment, mostly because of how federation works.

What some instances have been doing is using a piefed subdomain, like https://piefed.blahaj.zone/

Maybe that could be an option for you?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When I get some freetime I might set it up. My thought is if I can somehow move the community that's easy, but then for federation could I just "swap" it out to piefed and nobody would know? After all everything we do here is based on DNS, if DNS points to a new place, well who would know?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is a feature to migrate a community from Lemmy to Piefed. There are a few limitations, but it's not too bad overall

"Swapping" it without using that feature might break federation as it relies on asymmetric keys to sign activities

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ah damn, the keys would definitely break then, thanks for warning me about that - it's not worth the effort then for now. I was hoping if I just changed DNS that a downstream federated service would just see the update and start accepting new items.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Happy to help. Feel free to subscribe to !piefed_meta@piefed.social or !piefed_help@piefed.social in the meantime, things are moving quite fast

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So my instance used to run Lemmy, I changed it all over to PieFed but kept the domain the same and recreated all the communities again. None of the content moved over - I was running out of HDD and needed to wipe anyway, other instances already had the old stuff cached so it looked the same on their end.

The only real headache I ever found was that PieFed doesn't (might be fixed?) support capitals in community names, so once recreated with a lowercase name those communities had a different ID on other Lemmy instances and would no longer federate. Oh and your subscriber numbers will forever look low, but the subbed people will stay subbed on their ends you just wont see it in the number.

Thanks that's essentially exactly what I was thinking of doing! Thanks for writing it all up. I'll take these and think on it

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lemmy has an open issue on this topic and they seem amenable to the idea.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can you link it? I can't find it

Lemmy devs went on a spree of closing issues as "not planned", some of them sounded like good ideas to me, and some of them were actual bug reports which seems odd to close as "not planned"

Maybe we need to start saying "PieFed does this" in our feature requests lol

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's not the same thing though. That's about local vs remote users. But the OP's post about PieFed's feature is for people subscribed (following) to the community vs not subscribed.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ops idea is flawed if the purpose to prevent brigading. shrug

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The objective is not to prevent organized brigading, but non community members downvoting from All

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I leave it to you to figure out how what I said applies to what you said.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Generally I limit to subs but browse All occasionally to find new communities. Part of this process is upvoting and down voting stuff and seeing which communities has more stuff I want and less stuff I thought was worth downvoting. I then sub or block after that point.

That is how I notice spammed slop as part of blocking a community. No, I won’t be going back to remove down votes before blocking just because the community is about spamming slop and the posts fit the sub. Harm isn’t a down voting requirement.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/51966171/21042502

This is the behavior that can be avoided.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

thats nice. as i said i leave you to figure out how the two are the same when it comes to community management.

feel free to continue beating your drum that they're different, wont change why you likely wont see your idea implemented. good luck!

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The idea is already implemented in Piefed

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm aware. that's their prerogative as developers of their codebase. I never said you couldn't do it. I said they're the same feature essentially.

I was simply pointing out to the other individual that lemmy didnt actually reject the functionality out of hand as they claimed.

what are you trying to achieve here by insisting your point of view here as if i care?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I said they’re the same feature essentially.

That just brings up back to this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52083259/21043578

Yeah, let's stop here