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Christopher ward is becoming a front line watchmaker.
Thanks for the good laugh.
Looks like a front line Moser rip off.
Indeed
https://www.h-moser.com/product/endeavour-perpetual-moon/
Nah, the resemblance is only superficial, on a static picture. On the Moser the moon "phase" is just a simple round flap that covers image. On the C1 moonphase the moon actually moves across the dial.
And looking more closely at the dial, the Christopher Ward looks 10x better than the Moser, for 1/10th of the price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMeYuk0thxg
They certainly have become the front line advertiser in this subreddit.
It is a bit fishy OP only ever posts news about watch launches and comments on his own posts, most of which are CW.
Tbf I've done something similar with Boston Dynamics on my own account and have nothing to do with them. I would see a new video and notice no one had posted it in the engineering subreddit. For 3 on the trot I was the first to post it, always hours after it had been released. If you find something a company does interesting, you normally want to post it in the subreddits and see some discussion about it. Plus, CW is on a bit of a run now with the last 3 releases so it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case with other users here.
With that said its naive not to think CW, and all watch brands tbh, will be using there advertising groups to drum up interest in places like this
So the cynic in me completely agrees. CW is definitely advertising here.
But, like, these watches have been really good. I don't own CW, I hate the CW logo, and I don't intend to buy a CW, but I can't not admit that the twelve, the bel canto, and now this have all been fantastic releases. The watch lover in me strangles out the cynic. Let the ads come.
It’s hard to say that without sounding a bit bitter, but you’re absolutely right. Watches are released almost every day, but most aren’t posted on this sub with the website text copy and pasted like we see here in with almost all CW releases.
I personally don’t care much if this is the case. I just hope people browse this sub knowing the fact that it’s used heavily for advertising.
They get a lot of hate for their logo, but they’re doing more interesting things than the vast majority of watch companies in their price range.
Are they though? Other than this watch/the moonglow and the Bel Canto (which I have on order, so I am not a CW "hater"), I have always felt that the brand plays things pretty safe. I've heard them referred to as "premium vanilla". Good quality, good prices, but nothing else they put out really excites me. Even the popular Twelve feels like the latest watch to jump on the integrated bracelet hype train.
They also have a true super compressor (whereas pretty much every other super compressor out there just looks like one), and their in house SH21 movement (120 hour power reserve via double barrel mainsprings, COSC spec). So that and the ones you listed make four pretty interesting aspects from a technical/design perspective. When most companies are just slapping sellitas into cases I’d say that’s something yeah.
I’m not a buyer for a lot of their stuff, but I do think they do more interesting work than a lot of brands in that price window.
I guess I was thinking more in terms of their designs. In terms of the tech, I feel like CW does things just to show that they can, in a sense. "Hey look I can make a 'x", too!"
Super compressors are a relic for a reason; they aren't made any more because they don't need to be. Simply having a high quality seal has basically made super compressor technology relatively obsolete.
Likewise, my personal opinion is that any power reserve over 3-ish days is a gimmick. Either you wear your watch more or less daily, or it's in a rotation and even a week of PR would likely not suit you. I guess technically there's the "stop wearing Friday and it works on Monday" argument, but most upscale movements have a sweet spot in the 2-3 day PR range.
Even this watch, Zelos, Omega, others have already done aventurine dials. As cool as it is, it still feels like CW is saying "hey, me too!"
I guess I'm just playing devils advocate. I like the brand. I guess I was hoping for a bit more from the announcement though.
Every single analog watch is a relic
I love vanilla and would love to get premium vanilla ice cream at my local supermarket but unfortunately I have to order it online, that's CW. I really liked the looks of the PRX they had at Macy's but it felt cheap and my Seiko 5 didn't feel premium so I got the Trident.
Thankfully the logo is only on the crown here