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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Let's be super real though. The multiple choice questions on those exams are fucking horse shit. Nobody gives a fuck about the content of those passages. I skimmed them and circled all c so I could leave.

And as a physics professor, the math is fucking horse shit. Cave dwellers like me will use things that are proximally related as viewed through a telescope. Everyone else learns it for these exams and nothing else

The only thing these exams test is the color of people who can afford after school test prep to learn how to best and most brainlessly eliminate the wrong answers and guess. (It's the white people)

I say dropping scores are progress. Let's bottom out and hopefully we take the shit basket we call education more seriously.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Everyone else learns it for these exams and nothing else

A big part of learning is to learn how to learn. Without learning just for exams it's hard to learn useful things later in life.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure if I am misinterpreting or misunderstanding your answer, but this is my response to everything.

There’s a difference between learning for tests and learning critical literacy and inquiry-based learning. Unfortunately, schools are forced to teach to the test and many students don’t connect with it and/or they are multilingual or English language learners and are struggling because the tests go over things that are exclusive to American culture or students, in general, aren’t provided support.

Yes, even math suffers. Word problems are a problem. Schools have to pull in social studies to other disciplines and science is often neglected for reading and math. There are a ton of behavior issues as well that teachers deal with that take away from time.

There’s just SO much wrong with education. I’m in the middle of a master’s program for elementary education and I’m substitute teaching as well (career switch late in life). I’m learning a lot about this stuff when I didn’t really pay attention before.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, all those issues are real. I was only talking about "learning for the sake of learning" criticism. I was force to memorize stupid poems in school that I soon forgot but even this lets you practice memory. Big part of education is just showing you how to decide which information is relevant, where to find it and how to memorize stuff. It doesn't work when everything else is broken but just forcing people to memorize things is not an issue in itself.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

That's true, but it could be anything