Fuck all this "let's not celebrate the gruesome murder of a political opponent" bullshit, the man was a stochastic terrorist. Let's dunk on the douchebag and piss on his grave together. I hope more fascists like him get it through the neck
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Charlie Kirk Fucking Dies: An Anarchist Rebuttal
Charlie Kirk deserved worse and we deserve to celebrate, but I do think that we should be preparing for retaliation from the State and conservatives too.
What could they do now they haven't done before?
What do you think happens when a stochastic terrorism generator... is violently killed, in a very 'televised' way?
A whole lot more stochastic terrorism.
Basically every big name Republican is just... blaming all Democrats, all liberals, all lefists.
They are calling for vengeance, on the scale of mass violence, mass incarcerations, no reservations, no quarter.
Facts and logic do not matter to these people, and they are right now in what I can only describe as a red out bloodlust.
... It can always get worse.
This is literally an apocalyptic death cult, and basically, one of their disciples has just been publically slain.
They've always wanted that. The question is if this allows them to push harder.
I mean yes, this... literally is directly what they wanted...
I can't predict the future, but... I did grow up with, come from a family of these kinds of people.
I very much fear that ... yeah, yes, this is sufficiently traumatizing to them that they will lash out.
My... first target of rage I'd suspect they'd pick, is trans people... they've already convinced themselves shooter was trans, I'd say any prominent trans left wing personalities are in a significant danger of some ... basically, a revenge killing.
EDIT: See my other comment.
At most this moved the current administration's timeline forward, and that is truly all.
It's been less than a year and look at this place. National Guard in Chicago was to be their next escalation after troops in LA and DC didn't provoke the reaction they're seeking.
This administration has 100% been deliberately agitating for any kind of violent response to their increasingly fascist actions, to legitimize extraordinary executive powers and military rule among their base. Once their base believes that's necessary, we are fucked.
This will almost certainly produce a violent response from the right, no disagreement there. But not one that wasn't already guaranteed to come our way. There's no amount of playing nice with fascists that ever gets them to stop or even slow down. This administration is elated to have this opportunity.
I mean... ok, if it moves the timeline forward... it still does that.
Is that not more or less the same thing as 'allows them to push harder'?
Beyond that quibble... pretty much totally agree, they've already done a lot of bad, and it probably was inevitable that some point or threshold.... actual, targetted shooting back would occur.
Unfortunately... I think we may have now hit, or at least come a lot closer to the 'we are fucked' point... see my other comment with Trump's response speech.
Yeah, I probably ought to have phrased that in a way that sounded less like disagreement. And I'm not eager to move the timeline forward and I'm aware of the harm that entails, so I shouldn't trivialize it either.
i dunno, maybe it'll be the national guard in orem instead of chicago
I somehow doubt that'll have the intended effect, and that would also be more consistent with the material reality than going to Chicago, AKA another point of doubt lol, but who knows?
Just because something has been done before doesn't mean we are necessarily prepared for it.
(Also I used the word "rebuttal" facetiously. I'm very much celebrating even though I'm simultaneously worried about how they're gonna react 🥳🎉🎉)
A lot. They haven't even begun ramping up the really serious fascist stuff yet. They are still in the early days of the 1930s.
I think there will be extra raids and troop deployments as a reaction; but overall not much change as a whole this week
They'd be dancing in the streets and calling all the libs they knew just to laugh if it was a prominent liberal murdered in cold blood. I have no sympathy for those that have none for others. It certainly is a tragedy, but a deserved one.
I'm sorry his wife and children were there and have lost someone they love. Maybe they stand a chance at being upstanding citizens now, though. Actions have consequences, and so do words when used to incite violence against your fellow man.
Well, I'm not exactly going to be tearing up for any "prominent liberals", either - they want their fascist attack dogs around, and I'm not going to pretend that their own attack dogs turning on them is anything other than deserved.
I'm not apologizing for anyone here, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the right when they start saying "hey now, someone was killed"
I don't think they will be doing anything other than what they were already doing - I mean, they didn't actually do all that much after Trump himself nearly ate a bullet. They will try to milk his death and feed it into justification propaganda, though.
Since this comment, Trump has promised to go after dissidents (Truth Social warning!). I'm still in the "fuck it we party" stage but some point soon we gotta prepare for what's coming.
Prepare how? Stock up on range toys and ammo, like some people on here are saying?
That's not going to be nearly enough - they wrote 2A based on the assumption that there will always be more than enough white supremacist goons to overwhelm any leftist resistance - and, so far, that assumption has proved perfectly correct. The people at Blair Mountain was armed to the teeth - so were the people in Greenwood. US-style "gun culture" has never served the left very well - I'd argue that it actually does something even worse than nothing... it lulls leftists into a sense of false security.
I'm not saying arming yourself is a bad thing... but the idea that firearms mean automatic salvation is a peculiarly US-only idea that has more to do with pop culture than reality.
The left has been playing nothing but defense since the Culture War began, and it just took four years of Biden's liberal counter-insurgency to sweep even that under the rug. That's where the weakness of the left truly lies.
I don't oppose that, but it needs to be part of a greater plan about how to deal with being targeted by the State for repression. I.e., escape plans, plans for if martial law comes to town, plans for going underground, and plans with the community about how to handle the upcoming oppression.
My point is more "hey everyone this was cool but there's gonna be some negative consequences too".
IMO "stocking up" is necessary but nowhere near sufficient as a solution to weather the upcoming storm. I agree with everything else you said 🙂
Another thing to plan for but which is rarely covered: learn a trade. If the actual SHTF scenario goes down, you're going to be on your own for a lot of shit you depend on society for right now. A lot of us are practicing home gardening, and that's awesome, but what about power generation and transfer? What about keeping your vehicle operative? Stuff like that. I've been taking some welding courses at a community college in case I need to fix something that can't be replaced. I'm considering also taking some electrician and plumbing courses.
The libs in America want nothing more than to be lulled to sleep by a lib government.