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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You are making an argument from ignorance.
First of all, this is something Palestine has wanted for many decades. So finally doing it is absolutely something the Palestinians want.

What, precisely, do you believe is the benefit of this action to the Palestinian people

It marks that the occupation of Palestine by Israel is illegal, making new settlements are illegal.
In short it basically defines almost everything Israel does as illegal and unacceptable by every nation that recognize a Palestinian state.

This is a clear message to Israel that they do NOT have the support of those countries, and their actions are regarded as illegal under international law.
Most likely there will be follow ups to this, that legally depended on this recognition to begin with.

It is also i signal to other countries, that helping Israel oppressing and committing war crimes in Palestine is not acceptable under international law.

Don't let perfect stand in the way of progress.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

As someone who is under the godforsaken Nazi regime of MAGA, I have rapidly come to terms with the fact that "illegal" things are only illegal if there is a force willing to enforce the law being broken. Is there such a force? I have heard nothing of it. Please suggest who, exactly, you think is going to actually enforce sanction and punishments for this "illegality". If these declarations do, indeed, have the force of international law behind them, and represent a commitment by these countries to enforce these wondrous and miraculous laws they've been actively ignoring up until this point, then I shall immediately cede the point.

As far as "argument from ignorance" is concerned, I would appreciate some elaboration. Saying "Talk is cheap" is not an argument from ignorance.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You are actually doing it again. The argument from ignorance is that just because you don't see (are ignorant about) the advantage of this, you claim there is no advantage, when in fact there are clear advantages.

With regard to enforcement that is usually a mix of individual countries and the international community, possibly decided in FN, much like we've seen with Iran.

You are living in a lawless country, and USA is not an ally in this regard anymore, but many other countries are actually trying to maintain and uphold international law.
Trump might even get in on it it too, if he thinks it helps his image.

Personally I consider USA a lost cause now, and I have little interest in their policies that mostly consist of shooting themselves in the foot, and let China become the de facto international leader, as USA is stepping down and even sabotaging their former allies on their way down.

I understand why you are pessimistic, I would be too if I lived in USA.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I am not saying "there can be no advantage". At every turn, I was asking you to explain the advantage which, let's be clear, you have been attempting to do in good faith. I just want to understand more about whether this international law is actually enforceable in any meaningful time frame. Saying "I don't see how this helps them in any meaningful way. Do you have some explanation that shows that it does?" is not an argument from ignorance, it is literally asking to be proven wrong. I am desperately trying to see literally anything other than a calculated move of realpolitik with the sole aim of getting their citizens to stop speaking out against their complicity in genocide.