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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 183 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 88 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Spotify: the company that continues to find ways to make YouTube play music not a horrible choice.

Like... How the fuck.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, I have a Revanced yt music app so I don't have to worry about ads or anything. It works damn near identical to Spotify too.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mine stopped working last week. Did they release new patches yet?

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not sure, I've been using one from a year or two ago, and it hasn't stopped working for me yet. I do get some prompts to upgrade to premium, but I can just ignore them.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

I just upgraded to .52 it seems to be workable again.

was probably just a specific patch level running on it.

[–] Scarecrow275@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I'm out of the loop. Why is there a Spotify boycott?

[–] natecox@programming.dev 106 points 4 days ago

The biggest band out of Bristol have told their record label to pull all their songs from music streaming app Spotify, in protest at its founder investing more than £500 million in a military AI company

[–] nnullzz@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’ve been changing their terms of service over the past year with some shady stuff and have continuously screwed over creators. I’m planning on yanking my music out of there too.

This explains a bit more

[–] protist@mander.xyz 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've been a Pandora subscriber for years because it's just a better service for music nerds imo. Their "radio" function goes way deeper into catalogs than Spotify ever did. Someone please tell me they're not run by fascists

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The parent company , XM Radio, donated to Trump and gives fascists a platform. Also their pay out to artists are among the lowest.

Which is a real shame because I've discovered so many good non-mainstream artists thanks to Pandora's algorithm.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is just not true. If I buy eggs from my neighbor who raises chickens, how is that unethical?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen your neighbor's browser history? You sure you want to support that shit?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're really into chickens, if you know what I mean

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Pink flamingos?

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thats not capitalism. Thats a person producing something and trading it for something else. Capitalism is borrowing capital from a person or entity that has more of it than you, for the promise of a share of the return if there is one. Ita a system of making money without actually working yourself. Its more nuanced than that and it has its pros and cons, but this is a lemmy comment and im just some guy

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve never heard that the initial investment has to come from a third party for it to be considered capitalism. Does that mean if a person had a business, sold it, then took the capital from that sale to start a new business that couldn’t be considered capitalism since a third party wasn’t the one investing?

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

At first first glance that just seems lile growth, but the very act of selling it involves a 3rd party. The profit made on the sale isnt directly based on a good or service produced, but the promise that they will collect more money than they put in for the business. Doesnt have to be a bad thing though. It could be sold to the workers who then directly benefit from it. Thats still capitalism, just a version of it thats more palatable and equitable.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where did the neighbor get their chickens? How were the chickens raised, transported, cared for? How are the chickens fed, is the food source ethical? Have the chickens been given hormones to increase their egg output?

I'm sure there's a million more questions you could ask that would lead to something being unethical, but there's way more to it than simply buying eggs.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

This is what the whole show The Good Place is about.

It’s impossible to account for indirectly unethical behavior and realistically survive. The best thing to do is be directly ethical, and at least avoid contact with unethical people and companies personally.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The issue for me is that AI generated music has ruined my experience with Spotify. It started recommending lofi beats (easy to generate with AI) and I didn’t want to spend weeks pushing the algorithm to not have it recommend me that crap.

Other users have complained about the downturn in quality of the weekly recommendations, which is what kept me there in the first place.

SoundCloud appears to have better recommendations for the type of music I like.

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Music-Discussion/Half-of-the-weekly-playlists-are-filled-with-AI-generated/td-p/6288755

https://mashable.com/article/spotify-ai-generated-songs-dead-artists-pages

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, +1 for SoundCloud, depending on your tastes their reccomendarions/stations have been pretty top notch.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

I'm not sure if you'd call this a "boycott", but many people have also just never used Spotify because they care more about supporting musicians than convenience.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 4 days ago

Likely because of that old military investment drama where a company making drones for Ukraine and EU defence did an investment round and spotify joined, which prompted every russian bot farm to attack spotify because of it. As an European, I feel like paying them even if I don't use spotify.