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Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

It’s a sharp rise from 18 months ago, when 19% of Americans said the same.

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[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm terrified of it.

I've talked to relatives on both sides of my family who have experience those times and they have nothing good to say about it.

My grandmother went from hoping the Nazis would ignore her, to hoping the American bombs would miss her, to hoping that the Russian soldiers wouldn't rape her.

My grandfather had guys from both the KMT and the CPC point guns at his head to try to get him to join (on separate occasions) and ended up a refugee.

Both China and Austria are doing very nicely now but boy did it suck getting there.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My grandmother went from hoping the Nazis would ignore her, to hoping the American bombs would miss her, to hoping that the Russian soldiers wouldn’t rape her.

Its a shame she didn't just start fighting back instead of just hoping they'd ignore her.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's a shame she didn't get together with all her teenage friends and face off against the SS. That definitely would have stopped them in their tracks.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you think they were beaten? By running away?

And loads if French resistors were teenaged.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What was the single biggest success of the French resistance?

What would those teenagers have done differently to not end up like the White Rose?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They provided a massive amount of intelligence, without with, the advance of Allied forces would have been far slower, and far more bloody. They also freed quite a number of Allied POWs, and got them back past the lines. They also downed comms and infra against the Nazis to blind them and slow their advances. They were also a key reason France was able to rapidly rebuild it's forces post WWII.

Do people just skip WWII history these days?

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

People like to romanticize the effectiveness of individual heroism but that's not what wins wars.

France wasn't liberated until a giant army showed up and pushed the Nazis out. That was mostly possible because the US had poured unprecedented resources into the war and the Soviets traded millions of lives with them.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fuck is wrong with you?

Some people are not fighters. The species is full of variation because we are cultural and depend on specialization. I state the obvious.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We all have choices to make. To live as a slave, or fight for freedom. Are some people just "naturally slaves"?

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Soldiers require 2 to 20 people each providing support. You can resist without picking up a gun. Stop assuming.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Providing support isn't the same as "hiding and hoping Nazis ignore me". Spoiler: They wont ignore you for long, and you hoping they go away just allows them to centralize and build their power.