this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2025
42 points (93.8% liked)

Ask Lemmy

34926 readers
1829 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Basically: In some countries, the pledge is with the constitution or the people, but in others (like constitutional monarchies), its a pledge to the (constitutional) monarch and their successors.

What is your opinion on this loyalty pledge? Do you believe it's a reasonable request?

(For context: My mother and older brother had to do the pledge to gain [US] citizenship so the idea of deportation isn't looming over our heads. I didn't have do it because I was under 18 and my mother's citizenship status automatically carried over to me according to the law.)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] lucg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Thanks, right, that makes sense!

I don't know that it's not a coincidence that this wasn't hotly debated btw. There's other debates that I don't hear from elsewhere, like nitrogen emissions. I barely know the words in english but de 'stikstofcrisis' has been a thing for about as long as I'm allowed to vote. Someone figured out that it harms nature and so a cap was put in place, then someone else did the math and figured out we're way over that limit (mainly due to insane cattle numbers for the country's size, iirc), and now any sector emitting nitrogen has permit issues, such as building living space for the growing population. Why is it growing despite low birth rates? "The foreigners!" See, we can blame everything on immigration :) (sadly I feel the need to clarify that this last sentence is not serious)

Sorry that I'm not responding to basically anything else you said. I don't have much of an idea about things like representation scales but what you said all sounds sensible. Perhaps I could add that the EU, until this year's "think of the children" fad (first ubiquitous age verification, then chatcontrol), has made mostly sensible proposals so far as I heard of them, but then it's not really acting in the same way as the US federal government so it may not be a good comparison. Maybe they were doing alright because they didn't think of themselves as the parent who's calling the shots, but rather a collaboration system of sovereign countries? Who knows