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Odysee, bitchute, peertube, and others are overrun with right wing media and there's nearly no left-wing stuff on them. Where are all the lefties?

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please don't. We'll win out in the long run by building something great, not by being awful. If you want to spend resources they're better spent supporting content creators. :)

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't look like we're winning right now. Most governments are leaning right and continue to do so. Fascists and their ilk don't play fair, why should we?

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You could create left wing chat bots to fight against right wing chat bots on capitalist forums, but it seems like a pointless exercise to me, and it just wastes resources and confributes to the dead internet. The venture capitalist logic running it all will kill the platforms soon enough anyway.

I really think social media can only be fixed by doing what we are doing right here - building better alternatives run by the people for the people. All of this technology is still young, we are doing quite alright for its age.

I think we need to fight the fascists as much as possible outside of social media. Community building in the real life in itself fights fascism. On commercial social media platforms we will never achieve anything because they are run by fascists and anything done on them just feeds the machine.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

I think you vastly underestimate the power AI persuasion: AI is 60% more persuasive than humans when it has personal information about the human.. It is also much easier to reach people online than face to face since considerable segments of the society. Fascists, autocracies, and the right-wingers in general are very much aware of this which is why they are flooding social media.

The effects of their strategy are clearly visible and IMO they are undeniable. Once somebody has joined their ranks and been poisoned not only with their rhetoric but also their way of thinking, it's very difficult to get them back out. They are basically taught who to trust, that science is bad, and how to react when brought in contact with facts or reality. Reaching somebody like that in real life is very difficult.

If we simply ignore what's going on and insist the way to solve it is to deal with it slowly, steadily and locally, then we have already lost - or we have made our lives significantly harder that way.

Not only that, we can't agree on what idea to push. The right-wingers have one quite clear and unified message: fuck outsiders, they are dangerous, we don't want them as they destroy the fabric of our pure and right society, and they make your life shit. That's the biggest message they have. Anti-trans, anti-queer, anti-immigrant, anti-... rhetoric just fits perfectly into that. Meanwhile, we are here screaming about inequality, climate change, animal welfare, social injustice, the wealth gap, women this, men that, capitalism is shit and here are 1 million ways to solve it with no single solution camp agreeing with another.