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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 47 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Speaking as one, we Progressives & Leftists need to ditch this purity-level mentality - it’s self-defeating.

Is MTG an absolute shit-goblin? 100%! But can she be useful in restoring ACA funding, and releasing the Epstein files? Also, 100%!

This is in part how the right has managed to shift the Overton window so far towards their side since the 2000’s. It’s about damned time we co-opt such successful tactics in order to bring some sanity back.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

There’s no strategy even needed. A vote is a vote. Who cares who votes?

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

She's an attention removed seeking relevance. She will never willingly help Democrats. That's as obvious as the sun rising tomorrow.

e: interesting censorship. lol

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is the removed word the 2nd letter of the alphabet, followed by something you scratch?

Or is it the Australian term of endearment?

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lol. Yeah, I was describing that aussie term of endearment with a phrase that rhymes with attention chore

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Wait, that’s not the Aussie term of endearment. That’s the C-word.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

.ml censors words like bitch and whore.

For.. some reason? Oh, right. .ml, they're all about that shit. lol

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. If you're delusional in thinking that the American government will ever operate again as it once did.

Liberals still trying to reach across the aisle as we stare a dictator and fascism in the face. So ready to work with a racist grifter that will say anything to keep her career alive. But decades of "how will we afford that?" or "you have to be realistic and compromise with the people that want to murder immigrants"

That ship has sailed mate. The legislative body has become exactly at Republicans wanted it to be. Useless. And if you haven't realized that you are not "the left". You're the liberal that can't come to terms with a reality the left has been warning you about for over 8 years.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I swear, you ML users really do give Lemmy a bad name.

I didn’t state anywhere to reach across the aisle, did I - you just made up your own strawman to get angry and argue against.

However, I did say if someone from the other side - even a gremlin like MTG - supports your existing position and they are the one reaching across the aisle, only a petulant, short-sighted fool would leave them hanging.

But you do you, an stay mad I guess.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't know mate. I was on .ee and just picked a popular alternative when it died. Not sure why an instance matters when I just join subs from all instances on an android app.

"Reach across the aisle" just means working with the other party. Do you think my criticism changes based on which party initiates it? Because it doesn't.

Could you maybe respond to what I said? Instead of mentioning something irrelevant and then nitpicking what a phrase means?

Having a moral compass matters. First, throw the Palestinians under the bus because "things will be worse for trans people if we don't vote for the genocidal Zionist". DO NOT demand anything of your party. That could "make them look bad". Yeah, the genocide made them look bad. That's the parties fault. Not their progressive base.

Then, "well, throw the trans people under the bus because healthcare for cis people is still good".

Then it's "well, we can't cover abortion because our grifter we work with doesn't want that either. But healthcare reform is still good".

Your type of thinking is how we got to the state we are in today. This is how the overton window shifts right. It's the Democrata constantly reaching their hand across the aisle to the right while doing everything in their power to kill progressive movements within their own party. Look at how they treated Mamdani. And now, under the thumb of fascism, in a completely disabled legislative branch with no power, you're falling for a racist grifter that does not give a FUCK about universal healthcare.