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"President Donald Trump said the United States would impose a new tariff of 100% on imports from China “over and above any Tariff that they are currently paying,” starting on Nov. 1.

Trump also said that the U.S. on that same date also would impose export controls on “any and all critical software.”

The move is in retaliation for new export controls that China imposed on rare earths minerals."

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Joke's on you China, if you won't sell it to us, we will add an extra tariff.
Trump trying to play tough, while he is absolutely destroying the American economy.

[–] tal@olio.cafe 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ehhhh. I mean, I broadly agree that tariffs are not a good idea, and for China, even untargeted tariffs. And end of the day, this is bullshit political theater.

However, it's not crazy to decouple from China, particularly for a number of important goods. It's probably not a wildly-unreasonable expectation that economic pressure will be used more in future conflicts than in the past, given the global nature of the economies and the longer supply chains. Like, concerns over that aren't something that Trump just pulled up.

All that being said, if he actually goes through with this and holds this in place, I think that it's going to be interesting to see how well the public takes it. These are effectively large consumption taxes. Sure, that's great if you're wealthy, because those are regressive, but they're going to suck if you're poor, and a major part of the reason that the public voted for Trump was because of upset over inflation under Biden.

So, this is from a couple months back, talking about his earlier tariff packages:

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/15/nx-s1-5467331/trump-tariffs-low-income-households

President Trump has argued that his "America First" trade policy is intended to balance what he feels is an unfair global trade scheme that hurts U.S. workers.

As things stand, there's a 10% tariff on almost everything the U.S. imports, though there are some exceptions. On goods from China, there's a 30% tariff rate. Last year, China was the third largest source of imported goods to the U.S.

Tariffs are a kind of tax that hit poorer households more than higher earning ones

Tedeschi said most U.S. taxes, especially federal taxes, are progressive.

"That means that they pinch higher income families more than they do lower income families," Tedeschi said. "Our income tax is a great example of that. When we run the numbers on tariffs, we find that that's the opposite."

According to the Budget Lab's analysis of Trump's tariffs, prices would rise by more than 2%. Tedeschi said that could lead to an almost 4% drop in purchasing power of lower-income families, costing them about $1,500 annually.

I mean, you ramp tariffs up, you're ramping up taxes on the poor. Okay, sure, Trump has worked at framing this as "China paying taxes, not you" or "standing up for America". But you can't hide the prices that people wind up paying in stores.

And I'm pretty sure that consumer good prices are


though not obviously linked to taxes


pretty visible, because we look at them a lot. Like why gasoline prices matter a lot, because there are signs with them all over. If you pay a tax at the end of the year, you see a number once. If prices are up, you're constantly looking at higher price tags.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

However, it’s not crazy to decouple from China,

Maybe not, but what Trump is doing is absolutely crazy. Trump has no plan and strategy, his method is only to try to bully others into compliance. Well guess what, it doesn't work. Not with China, not with Canada, not with Mexico, not with EU, not with Taiwan, not with Ukraine.
Trump is a bumbling idiot who is destroying international relations that used to be pretty good.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's great that The Us decouples from china while us in the rest of the world can still get come cool Chinese goods.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US can’t decouple from China not without losing $461 billion in import value? Thats half a trillion gone and nothing to replace it?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No see it's cheaper then for a reseller to purchase the products from China, then reship them at a higher cost to the U.S. Middleman makes there money, China still gets to sell of of their stuff and the U.S. population gets higher prices for the same products "Made in Nepal."

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not allowed, you still have to pay the tariff if it's made in China. If you don't, it's just contraband

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sticker says made in Nepal, came from Nepal.. how many investigations are we going to perform on a $15 t shirt because he took the exclusions out for cheaper product.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody will investigate a $15 product. They will investigate a $150 million shipment from Nepal, though

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you miss when they reduced the investigations from 80k or so to 0? Every package has to be investigated now. It's lock down. Only a believer in extreme government overwatch would believe in that. You know... Like MAGA

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you just reply to contradict your own post?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Please exp,clearly I don't make this post, and no one should have any idea what you are talking about.. so let's have your false narrative conspiracy theory posted here

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago