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Strange cross instance report behaviour (slrpnk.net)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/piefed_meta@piefed.social

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I recently noticed that Piefed handles cross instance reports better than Lemmy, i.e. if you moderate a remote community and a Piefed user reports someone from yet another instance, the report actually seems to reach you.

This is a long, long standing issue on Lemmy that makes moderating remote communities practically useless, as you only get reports from or about users on your own instance but not others.

Now, the strage thing with Piefed doing it better is that apparently all instance admins can see these reports (at least on Lemmy), which confused us a lot as we are getting reports that seem entirely unrelated to our instance and personal moderation responsibilities.

Since there are currently so few Piefed users, we don't have a lot of examples, but it seems like if a Piefed user is making a report, and there is any user from our instance moderating that remote community, all of our instance admins get to see that report.

It seems like this would classify as a bug or at least an unintended incompatibility between Piefed and Lemmy?

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can confirm it happened on three occasions in the past two weeks:

piefed.blahaj.zone user reports lemy.lol user on feddit.uk community
piefed.blahaj.zone user reports lemy.lol user on lemmy.world community
piefed.social user reports lemmy.world user on lemmy.world community

All three reached our mod / reports queue on jlai.lu (lemmy)

Edit: I'm not sure if we have jlai.lu users remotely moderating the communities these reports came from

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I just rechecked the strange reports I remembered, and in both cases we had a local user being remote moderator, so this seems like the most likely cause.

[–] wjs018@crust.piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for tracking that down. It makes finding the issue and fixing it a lot easier. rimu will likely see this thread before I get a chance to sit down and work on it, but should have a fix soon probably. Sorry for the extraneous reports!

[–] rimu@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure they are totally extraneous. There have been times when seeing someone act badly on unrelated communities has led me to ban them from my instance even though they never interacted with any of the communities hosted on my instance. That's valuable intel to have.

Perhaps we just need better filtering on the reports so that by default admins only see totally relevant ones but the others are still available 1 click away? Maybe a separate tab...

The existence of the Threadiverse Defence matrix channel points to a need that is not being met by Lemmy. If we can make that channel obsolete then that'd be awesome.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Good point

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Seems like it!