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[–] pathief@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I can only hope plasma6 has serious improvements on Wayland compatibility with nvidia drivers because plasma5 is unusable.

Yes, I know it works on your machine. It doesn't work on mine :P

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

Ye but people don't want to accept that the company charging $5000 for a GPU is also too stubborn and lazy to pay any devs to write decent drivers

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nvidia's latest driver patched several issues with Wayland sessions - perhaps the experience will be a tiny bit better now

[–] FalseDiamond@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had a quick go at it yesterday (the latest 535 broke DDC CI for one of my monitors, making plasma-powerdevil unable to start) and for whatever reason KWin ran at something like 3 seconds per frame. No that's not a typo, I mean it. I hope it's fixed before it gets to Arch's repo.

EDIT: It works! I had to switch to the DKMS driver (the main one isn't in the repos yet) but other than that my Wayland session didn't die a horrible death. Well smooth. I still didn't test much, but at least night light works.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Waiting for the driver to reach the repos to try it out. I am hopefull in an Hyprland future! You know, some day!

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Completely agree. I keep trying to open a new session on a clean new user regularly to check if it works and it is absolutely horrible. 3 days ago after updating the system and seeing some new latest kde versions coming in, tried again and noped the out of it in a few minutes. The fonts and scalling in so many places are very bad.

I keep reading about great improvements in the 6 version and am really hopeful for it to be usable.

Or the problem is just that no developers have normal regular laptops that are 14'' at 1080p and can't imagine that proper scaling at 125% and 150% needs to work out of the box.

Edit: I don't even have nvidia hardware, it's just regular intel stuff. Can't imagine the struggle of nvidia folks.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other half of the developers have 13" 2160p displays that are sharp either way – but don't notice the battery life hit.

Iirc there's ongoing work for proper fractional scaling protocol, so it might get fixed for KDE/QT applications at some point.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Completely agree, as an NVIDIA user (for now) I am screwed if I am required to use Wayland. I mean, I use Wayland for a long time and it works well with NVIDIA but there are many things that don’t quite work, like many emulators (Yuzu/RPCS3) that for some reason have a strange tearing, or some programs that simply won't open in xWayland.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully Fedora and others forcing users onto Wayland is going to help push Wayland devs to fixing the stuff that's breaking compatibility for everyone still stuck on X11.

[–] SquigglyEmpire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wayland is just a protocol, issues need to be fixed by devs of the apps/toolkits that have still haven't migrated over unfortunately.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I share the feeling. Not sure if the problem lies on Wayland or Nvidia but hopefully if Wayland becomes the standard they'll address the elephant in the room!

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Wayland is just a set of protocols, which work fine (albeit with limitations) when implemented properly. So if KDE's implementation of its share of the APIs works correctly with Intel and AMD GPUs, but not with Nvidia ones, the culprit is extremely likely to be the latter.

[–] Based_and_Cool@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like it's still pretty green :/