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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Enterprise wasn’t my favorite but I understand how people like it. Strange New Worlds is weird but I understand how people like it. Picard was a shitload of fan service but I understand how people like it. Lower Decks has very generic animation, but I understand how people can like it.

Discovery took everything that made Star Trek Star Trek and told it to go fuck itself. I don’t understand how people can like it.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Discovery took everything that made Star Trek Star Trek and told it to go fuck itself. I don’t understand how people can like it.

Have you watched past the reveal of Captain Lorca's past?

The reveal makes many of the very not-Trek first season issues suddenly feel much Trek.

I can see how that reveal might not play well to some. But it worked for me, and helped me forgive a bunch of issues I had with Discovery season 1.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I waited for the big reveal that all took place in the Mirrorverse. That would have explained a lot!

Then have them travel to our Universe and adapt to it. But no, between Archer and Kirk Starfleet must have recruited just the worst of the worst.

Could have been a cool story.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But no, between Archer and Kirk Starfleet must have recruited just the worst of the worst.

All good points.

But I've done some mental gymnastics to make it work. We actually know:

Lorca and Saru backstory SpoilersLorca defied orders to recruit Burnam, and keep Burnam out of space jail.

I also assume Lorca recruited Saru specifically because Saru's native culture includes lots of putting up with inane bullshit, which was useful to Lorca after disposing of original Lorca's body.

And I assume that the same character in my spoiler tag recruited various dysfunctional crew, while Saru recruited those crew that actually perform like Starfleet officers.

So basically, with enough mental hoops, I can assume that only Discovery, itself, is crewed unusually for Starfleet.

Edit: I also feel that Archer's bring-my-dog-to-work leadership should also shoulder some blame. And Kirk is still a low ranking officer at this point, so we haven't reached Starfleets prime.

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