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OMG the amount of gate keeping that goes on in car “communities” is beyond the pale, absurd and constantly shift.
Its really funny to see EVs coming on the scene with insane 0-60 times and horsepower numbers only for chuds to now claim that those things don't matter.
Seriously.
I had a guy in an I forgot what something manly or whatever with rude stickers about liberals or something on the back try to beat me off the line when was driving my leaf.
It was a complete joke. The instant torque evs have is ridiculous.
EVs have completely killed "the car guy" to me. Like you can just buy a run-of-the-mill EV and it can easily have better overall performance characteristics, better energy efficiency, and require less maintenance than a random "sports car".
But hey, I guess it doesn't go "vroom-vroom", set off everyone's car alarm on the street when it passes, and doesn't function as a dead giveaway that you're an asshole creep who is having trouble masking their psychopathy.
LMAO!
I saw a comment in a car thread in a general interest community that claimed that if you couldn't drive with a manual gearbox, you shouldn't be issued a license.
I am a Swede and this was on a Swedish forum.
Most people here knows how to drive manually, I don't, and I drive far better than plenty of manual drivers.
Oh yeah the Manual purists are the worst. I get it for hobby driving and project cars, but to hell with driving a manual for commuting.
Yeah, I see my 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV hatchback as an appliance, it takes me where I want to go, I am only licensed to drive an automatic, but do so well.
Now, after two and a half years of driving, I am thinking about learning the paddle shifter, but eh, it just seems like another distraction.
Wow there are actually different licenses for manual or automatic in your jurisdiction? Where I live you get a license to drive either type of car.
There are different licenses for commercial vehicles here, but I am pretty sure they are for both manual and automatic.
Oh absolutely, not only that we have separate licenses for motor bikes, the standard car (max weight is 3500kg, including cargo, passengers and possible trailer), and several more:
Here is a list of categories of licenses in use in Sweden:
https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/en/road/driving-licences/im-going-to-take-my-driving-licence/driving-licence-categories/
Here are some more details about driving licenses in Sweden, the restrictions section is interesting.
https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/en/road/driving-licences/im-going-to-take-my-driving-licence/
My standard B license comes with the following restrictions:
Other than those, it is a standard license.
Please feel free to ask if you have further questions about driving and driving licenses in Sweden, I passed my test almost 3 years ago at 35 so it is still fresh in my mind and probably still valid knowledge.
It actually makes a lot of sense. We in the states are way too flippant about licensing drivers.
For people who've had a genuine opportunity to learn and couldn't figure it out then I would kind of support this. If someone can't figure out a basic coordination exercise then I don't really trust them to handle the controls of a couple of tons of moving vehicle.
I do realise though that many people don't have a proper opportunity to learn (no vehicle to do so in or a poor instructor) so most get an exception from this judgement.
I assume, to maintain consistency of your judgment, you also regularly turn off ABS, traction control, cover up the backup camera screen only turning around and looking out your back window when reversing? An electric starter also is a bit of a luxury too, right? Do you usually push your car forward with your feet and pop the clutch to start the car, or are you a true purist that uses an old school handcrank mated to the engine's crankshaft? Wouldn't these all be, matching the theme of your definition, basic coordination exercises that someone must be able to handle to control them to control a couple of tons of moving vehicle?
Correct. I would not expect people to know how to do these things but I would expect a competent person to be able to learn them.
Well, your gatekeeping is consistent, I'll grant you that.
You're welcome to put your own effort into learning useless archaic skills, but I hope you can see why your opinion that other should (as determined by public policy on driving privileges) is in the minority on this. There was absolutely a time when spending time learning these things was necessary. That day has long since passed into history.
I mean, I have tried to learn the manual gearbox, and I would have gotten it given more time, but it took me about a year to learn to drive an automatic, this was while working full time at the same time. So I decided that with the rise of EVs and automatic gearboxes, I didn't want to spend another half a year learning something that is going away.
I agree with you to a point, if you got the same kind of license taking the test in an automatic car as in a manual car, then I agree that a critical component is missing, but here in Sweden you are limited to only being allowed to drive automatic cars if you took the test in an automatic car.
If I need to, I am absolutely not against learning a manual gearbox and taking a new test later.
Me relying on an automatic gearbox does not make me a worse driver than the average driver.
As an American, I sort of understand that argument for Europe more, because everything I've read says manual is more common, but still, how often are you going to be in some scenario where you're forced to drive a manual? Like if you're bad at driving a bigger truck, you just shouldn't do that on busy roads until your comfortable. I don't view these types of things as necessary knowledge for driving.
Here in Sweden, since I took my test in an automatic car, I am not allowed to drive a manual car unless I pass a new test in a manual car.
This is perfectly resonable, I would be a terrible driver in a manual car, but driving an automatic, I am perfectly fine.
Yeah that makes sense.