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[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (18 children)

We don't. This isn't the U.S. with their freedom of speech, where you can say literally anything. We have something called freedom of expression, which does not cover hate speech, and a few other things.

[–] corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

well you should use your freedom of expression to express your concern for israel's actions on mainstream tv channels

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"You" being who?

Edit: it was a genuine follow-up question to a statement that I feel could have been interpreted in a couple of ways, and his answer did give some precisions on his position, which is why I wanted to ask, rather than assume. No idea why refusing to judge hastily warrants downvotes lol

[–] corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the article opens with stories of people losing their positions over comments on gaza conflict

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freedom of expression doesn't mean free from consequences.

It only means you can't be arrested for what you say.

[–] corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so in your opinion when charlie hebdo shooting has happened the artists and writers have maintained their freedom of expression well into their deaths? after all they were free to make any kind of comic and they didnt receive any government backlash.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, actually. They did. Consequences don't always come from those in the right. Sometimes they come from fanatics and deviants. Consequences and justice are not synonyms.

You can provide protections from certain unsavory consequences, but those protections will never be perfect. Sometimes terrible things happen to people for expressing themselves. That doesn't mean they didn't have the inalienable right to express themselves in the first place.

[–] corrupts_absolutely@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well thank god they werent fined i guess

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

You seem to be conflating two different issues. You may want to consider just how much mixing of philosophies you've been doing. It's probably led to a lot of frustration and anger in your life.

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