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The trial over an effort in Minnesota to keep former President Donald Trump off of the 2024 ballot began Thursday at the state Supreme Court as a similar case continued in Colorado.

The lawsuits in both states allege Trump should be barred from the 2024 ballot for his conduct leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol. They argue Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which says no one who has “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after swearing an oath to support and defend the Constitution can hold office.

A group of Minnesota voters, represented by the election reform group Free Speech for People, sued in September to remove Trump from the state ballot under the 14th Amendment provision. The petitioners include former Minnesota Secretary of State Joan Growe and former state Supreme Court Justice Paul H. Anderson.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

let them shit or get off the pot, then. MAGA has been trying to extort us with the threat of civil war for years now.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't want civil war or even cession in a country loaded with nukes. That shit tends to spill.

Also, this would inevitably lead to Christian extremists with access to nukes which will lead them to immediately believe that they were chosen by God to use them

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How are the Christian extremists in this scenario going to launch the nukes it's not just a button that you press that says "go".

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right? In fact, to the contrary, it's a super complicated and locked down process and the people who are meant to actually execute it are among the most highly-trained and vetted in the US military and are obliged to pass an ongoing series of exams in order to maintain eligibility for service on the nuclear arsenal.

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Come now, people here believed Trump had the actual launch "codes" in the papers at MarALago. They aren't going to fall for your complicated explanation.

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was that report that the folks that are stationed at our missile silos sleep on the job and leave shit unlocked. It is not unreasonable to think a concerted group could get ahold of nuclear material if not the actually missiles. A dirty bomb is still scary

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It is not unreasonable to think a concerted group could get ahold of nuclear material if not the actually missiles.

Like these guys have the brains they probably irradiate themselves, saving everyone else the trouble.

They've not exactly demonstrated themselves to be capable of high level concepts have they? I mean so far they've essentially wondered around inside a ineffectively guarded building. The hardly military strategists.

[–] Boldizzle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But in Modern Warfare 2, all I had to do was go into a Russian sub and hit the launch button! Sarcasm obviously

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

They will get access to warheads. I'd they get access to codes (could be) they can fire them immediately. If they don't get the codes, they still have the fucking warheads that are "relatively easy" to disassemble and made to explode in an alternate way. Once you have hands on access, that's it.

[–] ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Gilead demands compliance

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I don't want it, no. But the only two possible answers to extortion are to give up all of your power permanently to the person making the threats or to call them on it.