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[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I thought we hated "toxic masculinity." So, why are we giving the most toxically masculine Disney character EVER a full movie?

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My question is more why can't a piece of shit stay that way. Everybody is asking for a redemption arc. I would rather have a movie of a new character or one that doesn't need a 180 to lead a movie.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is one of the reasons I stopped watching The House of the dragon show, one reason. Not everybody needs a tragic misunderstood reason for being bad guys. Sometimes people are allowed to be the villain. Let villains exist. They certainly exist in the real world don't know why they're trying to hide it in fantasy.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

We aren't too keen on puppy murderers either, but Cruella got her moment.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if they can pull of a fun redemption arc, why not

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How? He died at the end of the movie. So, it's a prequel, in which he still ends up a douche, or, it's a retcon.

Either way, miss me.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

tbh i dont know how the movie ended, i only have vague memories of this

i do remember gaston being ridiculous

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

Because he's hilarious, and there's always room for a redemption arc.