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[–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Search engine replacement is probably the only use case of AI for me - for the times when I don't know exactly what I'm searching for so the conversation style is helpful.

[–] INeedANewUserName@piefed.social 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it the conversational style? or that search engines have been designed to be actively worse to keep your eyeballs spending more time looking at advertisements now?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I used to be good at googling information I needed. Then Google changed what googling does.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Try to find a big rig truck wash near your location on Google maps. I cannot. Only 57 million car washes and no way to filter them out.

Edit: lo and behold: “big rig truck wash” is the magic phrase it turns out. “Truck wash”, “Semi truck wash”, “semi truck wash -car” don’t work but “big rig truck wash” does.

Fuck you Google, you waste my time.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's because pickups and bigrigs are the same things now.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't use Google. DDG works with keyword searches and you get exactly what you expect.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I do use DDG as my default. I was using "googling" for the sake of making a witty remark. Even so, the results are usually comparable - the first couple dozen results are mostly AI/SEO slop.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, go to your DDG options and turn the AI slop off.

Also add "-AI" without the quotes to the end of your search. Booleans still work with DDG at least, I don't know if they do on Google anymore.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was in grade school we had multiple lessons on using Boolean search terms to find useful information. Google-fu used to mean something.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

When I was in grade school we loaded up Logo and wrote scripts to make the turtle do abstract art.

is old

>_>

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not OP but - It's both. Sometimes I'm searching for something very specific and Google just refuses to give me what I need, while serving tonnes of promoted bullshit. Copilot will then (sometimes) give me the results I need much faster.

Other times I have a vague idea of what I'm looking for and an AI like Copilot can narrow it down for me or sometimes just flat out give me the result I need.

Of course, that only works if it doesn't hallucinate bullshit answers, which it does regularly. Still, with how far Google has fallen, sometimes it's just faster to go through Copilot and sift out hallucinations anyway.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For horribly inaccurate results that sound like they were written by a $5 SEO article writer.

Ill stick with key word search and skipping over all the SEO crap for.real results.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

With the amount of AI generated slop everywhere, I'm afraid that's becoming less and less effective. For what it's worth, LLMs work fairly well in filtering it out in a first pass. I don't take what it spits out directly but uses the links it cites as sources and find my answers there.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's times when I want to find "exact matches and nothing but" - searching for error messages, for instance - and that's made much harder than it should be by AI bullshit search engines that don't want you to switch off their "helpful" features. Considering moving to Kagi instead.

[–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely, there is using AI when you want and then there is having AI forced down your throat