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Again, the credit card number was to show you that both the math is math and the information is free are terrible arguments, which you clearly understood despite trying to avoid accepting it.
Let me introduce you to a new word plagiarism, copying someone else's art is not acceptable.
Again, give me your credit card number, if information is free you should have no issue with this. But you do, because you clearly recognize that information can have value.
Except it does, go chat with any artist out there and you will be told how their commission work dropped, how they were fired, and even if they themselves were not affected they certainly know someone who has.
You are you, but someone writing a book and in need of a cover, someone wanting concept art for a game, someone with a YouTube channel in need of a logo/avatar, or many other examples don't care about what the artist have to say, they just need a piece of art to be a part of the thing they're trying to sell. Artists can't live by selling art to the random person who might like what they have to say, the vast majority of artists make a living doing commission work or hired at a company to produce art for them. Now the art that these people have produced has been misappropriated and used in ways which they gave no consent for, and that way is making them lose on jobs and affecting their livelihood.
You're either a troll or just plain stupid, regardless it's clear to me that it's pointless keeping this up. We've gone in circles around everything, you claim information should be free but refuse to give away your information, that math is math but refuse to tell me numbers that have meaning to you, that digital artists are not artists but refuse to elaborate. You clearly don't know any artist in real life, but I hope whatever it is you do for a living is the next thing LLMs starts to imitate, maybe then you will understand that the society we live in doesn't care about the quality of the thing, but rather the cost and speed.
Well we can't agree. Credit card numbers in this context would be one that is like all credit card numbers.
To try an explain this as my particular number doesn't make sense in the context that no one is giving away an exact copy.
But since you can't seem to give it up: I do give out my credit card number all the time, obviously, and the use of it is either valid or fraud. As in misrepresentation, not that the number itself is special, the use of it is. Which is what I said in the first place: intent of fraud.
I get what you are trying to do, but it just doesn't fit this analogy, nor the analogy of information wants to be free.
But you seem to not understand much, so the conversation is difficult. In saying a painted something similar to someone else, I meant a copy as in a I learned a style or a method, not an exact copy. Plagiarism is a specific word.
So you are saying the person now can make those things themselves? Welcome to progress. Graphic artists saw the invention of clip art (they used to be sold in physical form by the book, hence the name), the press, the copy machine, ink makers, mechanics change and fade away over time. People could make cheap newsletters, ads, etc that they couldn't do before.The press changed everything, photography changed everything, then computers changed everything. A light table wasn't an idea, it was a real thing. All of those positions, all of those devices, all of the people who maintained and worked on those went away. People could draw and erase a thousands times, hit undo over and over, use tools the mimicked everything that was done by hand, without spending a thing. It already happened to all those people, it is happening again. But it enables another group of people to do it themselves, and another group of people to stand out above their peers because they are good at it.
It makes the cheap things easy to do. But if you want to make a real poster, avatar, a large game and can afford the help, an artist is worth the pay. AI does't know what it is doing, it has no vision. Making something cheap is cheaply made of course.