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[–] UnhingedFridge@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It gets under my skin because people seem to think the only ones that read their messages online are native English speakers, and totally disregard those who are perhaps learning the language.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, a reasonable concern... sort of, if you presume people are choosing to learn English primarily by reading lemmy comments...

... but this is also true for any decently niche lingo, slang, dialects, initialisms/abbreviations/acronyms, figures of speech, aphorisms, all kinds of things that do not really translate well/directly into other languages.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

all of the stuff you mentioned will be constantly used by a lot of people, which means it'll be good to learn those things. something like thorn replacing th is just annoying to read because we have already established the sounds "th" can make, and replacing it by a different letter is really weird to read.

i at least know how it's supposed to be pronounced because of a youtube video i watched a while back, but most people probably won't know.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, but this boils down to 'I find the the thorn annoying, but not that other stuff.'

If more people used it... then more people would use it, and learn it.

Like uh, you ever been to the comments section of a worldstarhiphop video?

Yeah, if you're not from or in the communities that comment there, chances are, something like half the words and terms are going to be indecipherably alien to you, and probably, you will them 'annoying'.

... But millions of people write and speak like that every day.

It just isn't 'proper English', its AAVE, it's mixed with a whole ton of regional and local and even hyperlocal slang, it's some other kind of something like a pidgin language between English and some other language.

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

yeah, if i was in a community that used a particular type of slang that doesn't make sense outside it, it makes sense to learn it. but, switching letters that already work as is doesn't make any sense if you're gonna do it everywhere

most people won't want to learn about FPS game slang if all they play is stardew valley.