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I'd like to be able to chat from an Android phone without a SIM card.

Edit: Since several people have mentioned it, I'm including this note at the top. There are security issues with using a temporary number to register even if it is not needed to maintain the account. Anyone can gain access to the number and use it for account recovery, etc. I'm not an infosec person at all, but this seems pretty obviously bad. Some services will work fine with a landline or other permanent phone number, as long as you retain private access to the number.

Edit 2: SimpleX turned out to be a good fit for me. It was fast and easy to set up, and simple for my family to use. I also like that it is self hostable if I need to set that up in the future. There are some excellent suggestions and useful discussions below, and I appreciate the help. I'll come back to this thread in the future if I need to switch

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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] spaghetti_carbanana@krabb.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

With Jitsi you can also self-host the server-side components if that's your thing: https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is it? I had no idea that was a potential accusation.

Edit: just did a quick search and found nothing indicating Jitsi is Google.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

8x8 collects and gives to google https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-privacy/

and

the usage of the free meet.jit.si service, is not free of tracking, requires authentication at either Google, GitHub, or Facebook and is hosted at AWS which is not considered GDPR-compliant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi

matrix is much better.

[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Last I checked matrix doesnt support videochats out of the box. A lot of people use jitsi plugged in to matrix deployments to handle this

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

From that first link it just looks like they give data to Google if you use the YouTube integration, which is something that you don't have to activate, and also is an unavoidable prerequisite of such an integration.