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Among pressing ethical concerns are whether brain organoids can feel pain or become conscious—and how would we know?

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

and how would we know?

Reasoning.

Does a ALU detect pain? Yes. Does it feel pain? No.

Just because it's organic circuits, doesn't mean they suddenly develop consciousness. That requires secific circuitry and data processing facilities. Organoids are far from sufficient.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's not pretend we understand the mechanics of consciousness. If you can prove what is required for consciousness, there's at least a Nobel prize in it for you.

[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So glad someone already said it. I'm a neuroscience PhD student who works with brain organoids and the article is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, I'm not aware of any labs or research that has been able to produce brain organoids with functional blood vessels. Having a necrotic core is normal for old organoids.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ok it sounds like they got functioning vessels after xenografting into mice (which has its own issues) and it mentioned connecting to micro fluidic chambers in the future for full ex vivo, but they don't have a functioning model for that yet. It's a very interesting and promising area of research but with practical lab work nowadays it's just not feasible. I hope they're able to get a full ex vivo model working soon though, that would be really exciting!

Also, note that article's 8 years old and way out of date.