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Among pressing ethical concerns are whether brain organoids can feel pain or become conscious—and how would we know?

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I havent read any of the comments or article yet, just wanted to predict how they're going :

oh shit we might be able to make consciousness, if not now then maybe the future, and we should have laws in place just in case

youre a fucking retard computers aren't people FACT case closed lol pwnd

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 105 points 3 days ago

Lol society can't even use ethics to take care of actual 5 year olds among huge groups of other types of people/lifeforms. Lol goddamn...

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Who upvotes this phony bullshit from "singularityhub"?

There's only one worthwhile sentence in this slop:

To be clear, there’s no evidence brain organoids can think or feel.

edit: A reason behind the hype. "Biotech" is yesterday's "AI".

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

people upvote sensationalist bullshit because it's what they emotionally respond to.

lemmy is rapidly become reddit redux, at an even faster pace. tons of crazy people on this site who are just here to get high on ragebait.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

and how would we know?

Reasoning.

Does a ALU detect pain? Yes. Does it feel pain? No.

Just because it's organic circuits, doesn't mean they suddenly develop consciousness. That requires secific circuitry and data processing facilities. Organoids are far from sufficient.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let's not pretend we understand the mechanics of consciousness. If you can prove what is required for consciousness, there's at least a Nobel prize in it for you.

[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So glad someone already said it. I'm a neuroscience PhD student who works with brain organoids and the article is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, I'm not aware of any labs or research that has been able to produce brain organoids with functional blood vessels. Having a necrotic core is normal for old organoids.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ok it sounds like they got functioning vessels after xenografting into mice (which has its own issues) and it mentioned connecting to micro fluidic chambers in the future for full ex vivo, but they don't have a functioning model for that yet. It's a very interesting and promising area of research but with practical lab work nowadays it's just not feasible. I hope they're able to get a full ex vivo model working soon though, that would be really exciting!

Also, note that article's 8 years old and way out of date.