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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Possibly the most complex language in the animal kingdom

That... seems wrong.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair I think they meant "most accoustically complex language" which is different from like human languages (which have a degree of nonverbal complexity and ideation clearly beyond whales)

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tonal Languages have entered the chat

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Good luck producing super sonic frequencies. These whales seem to have sonar as factory default equipment.

[–] stray@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How so? (I'm assuming OOP is using the common definition of "animal" to exclude humans.)

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They didn't use the common definition, they specified the animal kingdom. That definitely includes humans.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

We like to think we aren’t animals. You’re attaching meaning to a combination of words that is far too common to guarantee any kind of single definition.

People don’t like to think they’re animals. Call it whatever you like, in a context like this they almost certainly do not mean to include humans. And heck, do either of us actually know enough about sperm whale communication to say it ain’t? I’m sure Korea’s twelve levels of politeness probably has them beat, but still.

[–] duramu@beehaw.org -2 points 1 week ago

Ooooo yeah baby, um ackshully a little harder

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago

OK but no-one knows for certain.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I think they left out a descriptor for the type of complexity which when we're talking about "measures of complexity" is an important detail. I'm guessing they mean accoustic complexity which is used to categorize things like birdsongs.

[–] wideopenarms@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Humans are the divine chosen beings of true agency plopped onto the earth to bear witness, waiting to return to the source of our divinity, not filthy lowly animals