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What's to stop me from now taking from the wolf? His violence and the violence of his friends. The wolf becomes a tyrant in his own right. All he does is replace the pig nothing more.
Violence is justified on occasion.
But when everyone is just constantly allow to perpetuate violence on to one and other you just get a bunch of shitty war lords. The tyrannous of the world will always take advantage of it. It's a trick, a trap, just like capatilism but in another form.
Again those who believe in the survival of the fittest have egos and think they are the fittest, untouchable by the violence they wish to perpetuate.
You're absolutely correct, however:
This cannot be disentangled from a natural derivative: 'Tyranny is justified on occasion.' Just what the occasion is that justifies it is much harder to pin down. Traffic laws can be a form of tyranny, for example.
Importantly, this should not be confused with despotism. The statement 'Despotism is justified on occasion' is distinct, and uh, less defensible. Every time there's even the semblance of a benevolent dictator a religion ends up spawning that plagues humanity for centuries with a fixation on the dictator instead of the benevolence.
So to bring it back, if the wolf wasn't already blowing down and eating the pigs using straw and wood, he'd have his justification, instead of the convenience of one.
Mutual defense is what stops others.
The wolf cannot be a tyrant if he does not hold greater authority than others, and is kept in check by his peers through violence if need arise.
Mutual defense.
That's why I return to the statement. "What's to stop me from stealing from the wolf? Him and his friends""
You'll just get a bunch of shitty war lords. People protecting each other in little conclaves. My friends , my family, people who feel they owe me a favor.
Controlled access to resources through violence. The weak. The disabled. The sick. The old. All left out of these equations.
A vendetta someone has killed the wolfs friend for land. Now he rallies his buddies, and they rally their buddies, and come take it back. The wolf pack becomes the government.
Like it or not there will always be inequality. Especially physically inequality. And people will use that to their advantage. The physically strong, the physically hard to kill, the cunning, the ruthless, the persuasive. All have advantages in a world of violence that others do not.
To anyone who truly believes in anarchy I ask what's stopping you from taking from the wolves now? Because it's not pigs who sit in those Mansions. It's wolves.
Only compassion will get us out of this world we have created. Not to say violence will never be necessary. Sometimes violence is the only language a wolf understands.
Anarchists do not become the government, they abolish the state apparatus and promote self-governance.
Please go understand anarchism before you try and argue against it.
So how's that different from just more violent libertarianism?
This does not keep greed in check.
Guns certainly can keep greed in check.
I don't want to engage in violence and I certainly don't want a gun. So, in this violent world of yours. . . Where do I (and people like me) weed out? Do I just lose if everyone turns to violence to solve equality problems? Your logic is sound in some ways, but is definitely flawed in others.
How would you lose if people fought for you?
Likewise, do you think the natural state for people is constant violence? No, the majority of people get along without issue.
And on top of it all, you already live in a far more violent world.
No
Yes.
But please do tell your magical solution.