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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But Klingons and Romulans actually are different. The Monty Python joke is that swallows are migrating birds so the difference between European swallows and African ones isn't a difference in species or at least individuals but season. They live in summer in Europe and in winter in Africa.

Or am I missing the joke and Romulans and Klingons use the same ships for some reason?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, it's referring to a separate non-migratory African swallow species, as indicated by the guard saying "But then of course, African swallows are non-migratory."

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just that their ships are both referred to as "Bird-of-Prey" thus causing the need for differentiation.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I belive that in TOS the models were inconsistently used for both Klingons and Romulans.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Romulans first in "Balance of Terror" then repurposed name using a different design for Klingons in STIII. Plus some retconning in ENT.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Klingons probably stole a bird of prey from the Romulans at some point and managed to create more of them. Would explain why their ship design barely changes over like 300 years lol.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago

"You've not seen a Bird of Prey until you've seen the original Klingon!"

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No way. The naming of the "Klingon Bird of Prey" was in STiii? I'd always just assumed that it was TOS.

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I thought they did use the same ships - I seem to recall reading somewhere that it was because of an alliance at some point, but I don't remember if that was in a non-canon book.

The real reason was to reduce production costs of course.