With QBs that have retired in the last 5 years, there are some interesting HOF debates that I see coming up. Right now the sure-fire HOF guys are Brady, Brees, and Rodgers when he retires. The next tier, however, is a lot more interesting. You have Matt Ryan, Big Ben, and Rivers who are all very close. What's interesting is that according to Pro Football Reference's HOF Monitor, they all have fairly similar scores even though they have different resumes. Ryan has the MVP/All-Pro 1 season which is pretty much required unless you have 2 Super Bowls. Ben doesn't have a crazy MVP season, but he does have those 2 Super Bowls and 17 good years. Then Rivers has some crazy counting stats. I think that Ryan and Roethlisberger have a slight edge over Rivers but it is very hard to separate the 3. So my question is do we think any of them make it? If they do it opens up the debate for a lot of players in the future. Also, how do we think the HOF committee weighs Rings/MVPS/All-Pro teams? The media is always so focused on the rings but looking at the resumes of HOF QBs there are a lot more without rings than there are without All-Pro seasons.
Edit: Here is the PFR Monitor. The average HOF QB has a score of 108. Ryan has a score of 106, Ben has a score of 100, and Rivers is at 98.
Eli Manning lol. It’s funny because Eli has TWO rings and TWO SB MVPs, while being top 10 in most counting stats of all time and is seen as only a borderline case for the HOF like Rivers and Ryan, while Big Ben has 2 SB rings with no SB MVPs and is seen as a lock for the HOF.
Its completely absurd to suggest a guy that has never made a single all-pro team in his career be a HoFer
Oh now All-Pros matter? Certainly not when Peyton had 7 and Tom 3. 🙃
I feel like Eli making the HOF in the most oddball way is entirely fitting for this beautiful goober
A hill I'm willing to die on is Eli Manning is a textbook Hall of Famer. This isn't the hall of best stats folks. If you are telling the story of the NFL, you don't leave out Eli Manning beating 7 Time Super Bowl Champion Tom Brady TWICE including against the perfect season. He's got the logevity, he's got the bulk stats, he's got Rings. Jim Plunkett is the only eligible 2 time winner who isn't in.
It would be weird for a QB to make it who was nevered considered a top 5 active QB.
He's top 10 in counting stats but everyone ahead of him is someone he played against or Dan Marino. His stats are a product of the passing explosion and playing for 15 years at an average level.