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[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's a mouse, they used to just be a simple thing you plug in, get a basic driver from the OS and it makes a cursor move.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But, how to add AI to it without 200Mb companion application that also serves ads?

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

200? Those are rookie numbers

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple doesn't care what you do with your driver as long as you keep paying them.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But think of the innovation: in those days there was no way they could get you to install their buggy, insecure software that requires you to log into an online account so they can track you and push ads to your desktop. And mice didn't even have batteries that would fail after a year or two, forcing you to get a new mouse. Heck, you didn't even have the experience of the mouse seizing up in the middle of your workday because the battery ran out, or becoming intermittently unusable because of interference from USB 3. Those were dark days indeed.

[–] eccentric_idea@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

While that's true, Logitech's MX Master has its upsides. First, you don't need to use a specific USB dongle for it. Instead, a single Logitech USB receiver can connect to up to 3 devices, so you have the freedom to connect with either the dongle or the computer's Bluetooth.

As a result, I have a single MX Master 3 connected to three of my systems. In comparison, my wife bought a Microslop's ergonomic keyboard and it's now just a brick because the Bluetooth dongle broke and there's no solution.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My pop's cheap Chinese mouse does the same thing, and it doesn't rely on the internet (and, yes, I checked firewall logs).

[–] eccentric_idea@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Which one? Please do share the link or name as well. My MX Master 2 died recently when I tried to replace its switches to make it silent. Right now, I'm using MX Master 3, but I find it less reliable than 2, so I'd love to hear about a budget mouse I can use that's also ergonomic and similar to these mice.

[–] Sasquatch@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bluetooth mice are also limited to a 250hz poll rate iirc

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

I honestly can't tell the difference between 250hz and 8kHz. And I bet most people can't either.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hopefully you never have to update the firmware on your receiver.

[–] eccentric_idea@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No idea. I usually use Solaar. And I've like 4 receivers laying around. I haven't had any issues with that. The only issue I had in the past was that the keyboard would break connection at times (I also have K860), but I connected it with CPU's Bluetooth connection, I think.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just got a K400 for $2 so I shouldn't complain too much but it's a bitch trust me. (The guides said to use solaar. They were wrong)

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

IMO MX Master 3 is the best mouse ever made.

[–] eccentric_idea@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I disagree with that. I like the MX master series, but I found MX Master 3 worse than 2/2S. My wife and two of her friends bought it and all the mice developed a left-click button problem after about 1 year.

In contrast, MX Master 2 (or 2S, I don't remember now) worked for more than 3 years for me. I only had to clean it once to fix a scrolling issue. It finally hit the bucket when I replaced its switches to make the mouse quieter.

Never use the 2/2S I just really like the 3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I like Keychron mice. They look much nicer and they have comparable models.

Didn’t know about these. The M7 looks nice

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't know they have mice, too. Might look into those, since I'm very happy with the keyboard I have from them.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah they make an MX Master clone. And the config software runs in the browser so it actually works on Linux. And they look super nice and "minimalistic", in my opinion.

[–] BobWehadababyitsaboy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of my favorites features on the logitech mouse is the scroll wheel that seamlessly switches between smooth continuous scrolling and stepwise scrolling. Do you know if it has cloned that feature as well?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Keychron doesn't appear to be US based so that's good... are they UK? Sources disagree.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Based in China, ofc.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But they used to have Unifying Receivers that could handle 16 devices, and I don't think a bad cert would cripple the software. Didn't they stop making those a few years ago.

They stopped, yes, in order to replace them with the abysmal excuse they have now.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In PS/2 days and before, there was no need for a driver. But it was just a pointing device, no fancy anything. Still, though, it was a tank. [And it had a nice lead ball in the middle that you could yeet at your brother, when he was being a wanker]

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