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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I argued very forcefully against everythign they had to say; I even got an apology from one of them, but I don't think I ultimately changed any minds. It's just so much easier for people to believe that the victims are at fault, it lets them feel superior, safe, etc.

I have not brought any of this up with my kids, but my 5th grader came home in tears yesterday because he's afraid of ICE now. This is not ok. Our government is terrorizing it's citizens and most people seem to love the fear.

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Yes, the fear and anger is addictive. It's why reality TV shows are so popular, it's why outrageousness in the news headlines are par for the course. Americans are so very disconnected from real life and have been for a long time. Issues across the world barely register on the average American radar. It's become a deeply unhealthy culture and I don't know how your country is going to survive this.

Well hopefully you made them go home and think at least, instead of just reassuring themselves and moving on until the next tragedy happens.

I can't even think of what we should tell our kids. It's impossible to say it's going to be alright, and mean it right now. I'm sorry your fifth grader is so scared. Luckily my little girl is only 3 so she doesn't see anything yet. I'm going to protect her from that for as long as I can.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

most people seem to love the fear.

No, only conservatives, who voted for this to happen to our country. And they represent about 30% of the populace.

Still WAY too high of a percentage of mentally ill people.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree, it's not just a conserviative problem; there's an authoritarian problem that straddles both sides. I think the left is less susceptible to it, but it's there. I know plenty of "lliberals" who accept things uncritically as well, and plenty who are perfectly happy submitting to any authority.

I have "liberal" relatives who argue to this day that it's all just politics, and that biden was worse because he forced masks.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Indeed, democrats are pushing internet surveillance and censorship as we speak. Both major American parties want to control you (they're both funded by the same people so no surprise).