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It is the same principal as "don't talk to the police". while the supreme Court is a useless political entity at this point, many state courts are handing out meaningful, fairly impartial, and impactful verdicts. As something reliable and in public record, even a lie can be used to fill the known witnesses' testimony bingo cards and hang those involved.
Now should a president be found guilty of a state felony while in office... that would really test our institutions in a new way. I don't have a lot of hope, but tearing the veneer off this fascist regime before it's mechanized is a motive in itself. The people do have a lot of power.
There is at least one active case under consideration in which the regime is trying to extend the power of the presidential pardon to cover state crimes as well.