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Listen, i’m not saying his time isn’t coming to an end at the elite level. But one poor season in 23 years does not call for some of the revisionism occurring here lately. Arguably, the defences he’s still producing (2022, 2021, 2020) have kept the Patriots from rebuilding properly. It isn’t easy in this league to escape from 8-8 hell without a franchise QB.

“Brady made him”. You can use whatever stat you want here, but let’s use the most basic one. Points allowed per game. Of course there are influences here. Time of possession, special teams, ability to generate turnovers. But at its most basic level this is what determines the result of a game.

Brady had 20 seasons as a Patriot. He had a top 10 defence in 17 of them. In 3 super bowl victories, the Patriots played 3 of the top 15 offences in NFL history. 01 Rams, 16 Falcons and 18 Rams. 17 points, 22 points(pick six), 3 points. Even throw the record breaking 04 Colts in there, 3 pts. If we change to PTS per drive, he still has 15 top 10 defences!

Manning had 4, Rodgers had 3, Brees had 2. All three had great ball security and time of possession.

Is Brady the GOAT, yes. His consistency in clutch moments puts him ahead of the likes of Peyton and Rodgers. Did he make Bill the greatest defensive mind in history, no!

Brady record when scoring 20+in the playoffs: 32-4. Rodgers is 12-9 in this statistic for a direct comparison.

Average finish in points per drive among notable QBs

Brady: 9th

Rivers: 15th

Peyton: 18th

Rodgers: 18th

Brees: 20th

Mahomes: 20th

And we are trying to pretend Bill didn’t give Brady a significant advantage over his peers? Another 2 super bowls as a DC.

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[–] Boxatr0n@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that on Dec 6, 2021 Billy B beat the Bills by throwing three passes cements his legacy as the goat coach

[–] RayLiotaWithChantix@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The forward pass is a fad.

Ya know I kinda feel like the league should just step in and tell BB he needs to move on in 2 years. He is a goddam national treasure of knowledge, and he's not getting any younger.

I need to know all the details goddamit. I need to know why he benched Butler. I need to know how he really feels about Patricia and McDaniels. I want to know why he gave the guy painting lines on the field (Thomas Dmitroff) a job upstairs and then ends up coaching against his team in a Superbowl. I have so many goddam questions and he's not going to answer them while he's still a HC/GM!!!