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Remember when the CIA Vault 7 leaks showed the CIA looking into how to hack vehicles to direct undetectable assassinations through forced accidents?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
No I don't remember that because I never learned it, cia vault 7 you say? Thanks for the tip I will look it up.
I am convinced Guiffre was killed from hacked vehicles in australia there.
60 minutes a few years back got a new car and paid a hacker to take control of it from the internet while they were driving it in a parking lot, and it was disregarding their commands, steering wheel, brake, gas, and doing what the hacker told it to.
Just for you, here's an Australian source, too.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/wikileaks-vault-7-dump-reignites-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-death-of-michael-hastings/news-story/0df1d06403d0223ce1cfc286a1e75325
Thanks I want to dig into some more of that. As a quick aside though, let's recall this other spyware/hacking tools the government developed mentioned at the end of the article all got stolen and published online on shadowbrokers not long after, at least the NSA ones idk how much crossover they had with cia developed ones.
All the ransomware attacks are all nsa tools repurposed from that leak. Separately the Israeli Pegasus and it's ilk, zero click infection of phones and computers that give them total visibility, is thought to be derived from the FLAME virus the US used to infect Iranian centrifuges in the 00's or whenever that was.
Our tax dollars is what is making us vulnerable. In this and other ways we learned from the snowden leaks.
Abso-lutely. Western governments like USA and the UK learned the wrong lessons from the end of World War II and have practiced security through obscurity for decades since cracking the enigma machines codes and keeping that a secret during and long after the war. They sit on vulnerable exploits under the false notion that they'll be the only ones to ever find the exploits and use them. Instead of taking security seriously by reporting exploits when found, they use them in stupid fucking hacking wargames that make the whole world more vulnerable. Security through obscurity always works right up until it doesn't.
Even more reason to pushback against the excessive the digitization of cars
While the AI arms race is an unmitigated disaster for the personal computer and consumer electronics sphere (and the environment no less), on the small plus side, we might see fallout resulting in less digitization of vehicles and a return to some computer electronics such as televisions back to "dumb" models with no extra features other than being a television due to the shortage of memory and storage. They can't just dip on producing things like TVs and cars forever (they're already planning on short-term production reductions) while waiting for RAM and storage to become freely available again.
Thats a good point. I really hope you’re right. Seems impossible to buy a new car these days if you’re at all privacy conscious
1: Buy whatever car you want.
2: Find the antenna it uses to communicate.
3: Cut or unplug that antenna wire.
4: Attempt to use some online feature of the car and confirm that it worked when you see 'Failed: no signal'.
If you're not technically savvy enough to do that yourself, I'm sure you can find 3rd party mechanics who are willing to do it for a reasonable price.
The car will then forever function in 'outside of signal range' mode without being able to connect to the internet or any other network. Some features might be unavailable in this mode, but all the important features of the car should still work. (Because manufacturers build cars to still work even when inside a tunnel or outside of cell signal range.)
It really is that simple. If your car can't communicate with the outside world, it can't violate your privacy (and it can't be remotely controlled, either).
(Okay, so there are still some privacy concerns. Mainly about data logging and retaining data you'd rather not retain. But bad actors will need physical access to your car to get at that data. Only a concern if your car gets physically searched/seized.)
See, this is a cute IDEA I see around lemmy a lot, but a number of cars will see issues related to this. For example, subaru has some vehicles that will kill their own batteries trying to connect, and failing, to services that no longer exist, even while parked. Cutting your connection will prompt the same issue. Is that terrible design? Yes. But it's also the design used for cars made to spy on you and stop working when they can't spy on you, that don't mind forcing you to buy a new car if you disable their spying capabilities.
They are starting to link the signal systems into other parts of the car, so things like if you remove the eSIM, your windows stop working, etc
Don't remove the eSIM, just cut/unplug the antenna.
The car has to function in tunnels and when you drive outside cell service range. Disconnecting the antenna (and putting a dummy load on it if necessary) will make it think it's just out of signal range, so it shouldn't refuse to work.
Interesting advice. Thanks!
I hope I'm right, too. We need at least some positives to come out the AI shitshow.
You can and should get non-smart TVs and projectors: Look up commercial displays (absolutely worth the extra cost).
Of course. My point is that we might see a return of these kind of devices to the consumer market if they can't afford to build smart-televisions to drop on the consumer market.
Keep buying them and they'll probably keep making them.
I haven't bought a new TV since 2010 and it wasn't a smart TV.
Since then I have only bought monitors.
My car was built in 1999 because I am poor. I try to ride my bike or walk as much as possible to put fewer miles on my old shitbox car plus for the environment and less traffic yadda yadda.
Fuck me go be a contrarian jerk elsewhere please. I'm obviously not part of the problem here.
Weird response, but OK!
Weirder than responding to someone who obviously understands the issue to stop buying them?
Weirder than ignoring the entire original point which is that they won't have the ability to make new ones because of parts shortages, and to keep making them they'll have to resort to making models that don't include those features?
Yeah, OK.
OK, good chat