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What Are Your Favorite Alternatives to Gmail or Outlook? (alien.top)
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I'm contemplating taking control of my email by moving away from mainstream providers like Gmail or Outlook. What self-hosted email services have you tried, and which ones do you find most reliable and user-friendly? Are there any challenges or advantages you've encountered in making the switch?

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[–] maximilian_-__-_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Proton Mail

[–] NiftyLogic@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agree with Proton Mail, awesome service.

Was thinking about self-hosting my email server, but Proton is just €40/year for me. Even if I value my time at only €20/hour, that means I have just two hours per year to fix issues with my email to break even.

Sure, this is /r/selfhosted, but issues with email are usually not some config changes on my side, which can be easily resolved by rolling back my latest changes from git.

Most of the issues arise from some asshat at email provider X deciding that I'm no longer trusted and blacklisting me. Resolving that issue is more like office politics than tinkering with my setup. Pretty happy if I can live my non-work life without any additional office politics.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[–] Thutex@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

i've been running my own mailserver for about 10 years.
last time i've had to look at it was 2y ago (and that was because i was using quite strict blocklists, had 1 not 'optimally configured', and that one discontinued service, causing me to be forced to remove it from my list)

honestly, once it is running as you need it to, and you have all the regulars set up for your domain (dmarc/dkim/spf) it's not all that much work.

blacklisting is pretty much a non-issue if you are using a decent provider (i.e. one that does not have 100 spammers on its network) and you are not spamming out yourself.

in 10 years i've had 1 or 2 blacklists - both from long before i was using dkim/dmarc/spf and also both due to the ip range (which was fairly straightforward to get my own ip out of the list)

[–] lilolalu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There is the middle ground of retrieving your mail from a mail Provider and serving it from a self hosted IMAP. That way you don't handle in- outgoing smtp but handle it locally.

[–] mikandesu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's currently on yearly black friday offer.

[–] terramot@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I can't remember if it was Proton, but i remember reading about some laws being approved where (I think) Proton servers are that would make them comply for disclosure if necessary. Not that it matters much unless you're doing illegal stuff, i believe i found this while researching the differences between Tuta and Proton.