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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 172 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (25 children)

It seems to me that every major conflict (Russia, Middle East) spikes oil prices, relatively unpredictably (if you can call this unpredictable).

Maybe the world should look for alternative sources of energy, which are abundant, cheap, and can be deployed non centrally?

No. No that’s insane.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These prices are literally controlled by price-fixing cartels.

But Europe is investing hundreds of billions in North Sea wind farms to generate hydrogen for heating, it was initiated by Putin's actions.

https://www.cip.com/projects/our-projects/hydrogen-island/

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Now we just have to hope that people dont dig up this bullshit idea of using hydrogen to heat your own house.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There's really nothing wrong with generating hydrogen when power costs are negative.

Except that only happens like 500 hours a year.

And hydrogen will leak from any tank.

And it turns metal brittle.

And I wouldn't trust my neighbor with a propane tank, let alone hydrogen.

And its nearly impossible to transport through existing infrastructure.

But other than that, its great!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels.

I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers.

What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants.

[–] Hypx@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Most of your claims are just climate change denial arguments. Many of them were directly made up by the fossil fuel industry.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Wow! so glad we have clean coal now!

[–] runblack@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (21 children)

I always love the stupidity of this idea: You were able to generate pure hydrogen at high costs... Now what should we do with it? Well lets just do what we did since the middle ages and burn it!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Craziest implementation? Burn the hydrogen in your home. But not in a furnace. Burn it in a mechanical combustion-powered heat pump!😁

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

🎡🎡🎡🎡🎡

The Gang Heat Their House With Hydrogen

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like, in place of natural gas?

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

The pedofile parasite class says no

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Whatever comes next Iβ€˜m prepared to be deeply disappointed by my government and our European partners on this. β€žMake gas cheaperβ€œ is probably at the very top of every leaderβ€˜s to do list tomorrow.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but power sources that don't spew fumes are for limp-wristed queers. /s

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