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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 153 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think if any other (smaller) site were continually posting CSAM without moderation, it would be banned. What's different about X? The fact that Elon Musk runs it and he's in with a powerful dictator?

At some point you have to admit the CSAM is not the problem, it's the person running it, whether they have the power to stop you/fight back or not.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not just banned, but there would be criminal charges brought on the owners.

Musk should be prosecuted for distribution of CSAM.

Absolutely. And soliciting Epstein for sex with minors. Let's not forget about that. He was begging to get on the island and get some underage tail. It was pretty pathetic.

He should be held liable, but he won't be. Not by people who do the same thing.

[–] fernandofig@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

What's different about X?

Well, you kind of said it yourself: The fact that, since it's sadly still one of the largest social outlets, there's a whole economy around it. If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue. We can argue that probably these people are not a majority of the other half of people in Europe that don't want X gone, but in the end, politicians and lawmakers care about money and (in a very distant second place) what the majority of their constituents say.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how feasible it would be if they'd announce a deadline whereby it would be blocked and recommend people and business to move onto a federated alternative.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You and I both know people, politicians, journalists would just move to Threads before they move to the fedi or Bluesky or any FOSS alternative.

They want an algorithm.

[–] MalMen@masto.pt 1 points 10 hours ago

@psoul @pycorax they want to be where people are... if people in the future are mainly on fedi they will join and subvert our lack of algorithm

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Europe banned X tomorrow, a lot of people and companies would take a non-negligible hit to their revenue.

Care to back up that claim? What exactly is Twitter's contribution to their bottom line that they cannot live without?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's obvious, the reach.

Big follower count = More Reach = More people likely to click the links in your posts or contact you

And that can be done elsewhere, but would require basically starting again from scratch, a big risk for a lot of corporations, and a big risk for independent creators (especially smut creators)

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbh, I very much doubt that the bottom lines of, say, Dassault, BMW, Metro, or UBS would even budge if Twitter were to self-ignite over night, and their Twitter accounts with it. They're (still) on this dumpster fire of a platform because "everybody is" and some bellend in marketing thinks it impossible not to do what all the others are doing. I'd argue no consumer cares what the Twitter account of Tesco's has or hasn't been posting this week, and it has zero effect on their purchasing decisions there.

"Self-employed creators", aka influencers, aka people shilling products while pretending to be your friend, might be affected more because they lack any non-virtual connection to their "customers" But then again, we could ask ourselves if these provide any real-world value and should exist in the first place.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean I enjoy porn, and they are included in your much maligned self-employed creators. Also I enjoy YouTubers also in that category, and Twitch streamers, and Artists.

Also you're entirely ignoring there's a middle point, the companies with less than 500 employees total.

And honestly it's less often that they use it that matters to them, but that it's seen by fools as dodgy for a company to not have any social media presence, so they feel obligated to have one.

Thankfully the ones at highest risk from Twitter getting enshitification are those which are trying to move away by doing posts that are like

Follow me on OTHER SERVICE to get posts a day early, I repost from there to here

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

They wouldn't suddenly ban it though.

Any ban would roll in without enough time for people to switch away. Twitter doesn't do anything special that can't be replicated elsewhere.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think if any other (smaller) site were continually posting CSAM without moderation, it would be banned.

On what legal grounds would that happen?

depends on the country, but the same framework as an individual spreading CSAM.

Musk should be treated like the pedo he is.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Confiscate every server that X uses as evidence. Same thing you do with any CSAM case.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And how does that work legally?

Same as it works to crush the little man.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not a lawyer, but I've read (on sites like Ars Technica that cover technology) about dark web sites trading CSAM being shut down. By the FBI in America, by Interpol in the EU... I don't know what legal grounds they use to do it.

You don't think CSAM should be illegal? Or you genuinely don't understand why it is, or what law it breaks?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

don't bother with them, they are a zionist and thinks laws shouldn't apply to the powerful, (according to other comments they made in this post).