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See I never said it was the primary way for change. That is you putting words in my mouth. I am saying that it is an important part to helping us get changed;

Electoralism cannot get change. I've explained how and why, and you have not explained why you think, for the first time in history, we can get meaningful change via electoralism.

particularly in the short term and to get as much legislation leaning as left as possible.

When the candidates are pre-filtered, a filter that blocks groups like PSL, you cannot actually shift legislation. Instead, what impacts legislation is the level of millitancy and organization of the working classes. The state votes against the interests of the working classes, and for the interests of the capitalists.

Ignoring election is to not resist fascist and just let them waltz in without resistance.

Fascism has never been stopped at the ballot box. Fascism rises as a result of capitalist decay, and is stopped by force historically. Whether the DNC or GOP wins, fascism remains.

Not at all, but if you can’t get your group to vote; which is comparatively easy in the west then you have little credibility of doing the harder stuff.

This doesn't follow. If voting isn't allowed to change anything, then people are more likely to be apathetic about it. I've seen many people in the streets, protesting, striking, that did not vote or voted third party.

Which is where most ml are. No credability and purity politics (like here you are trying to make it seem I don’t want change when i am reaching out to you to also participate in these methods with me as well, but you don’t want to get your white shirt dirty or something).

No? I'm telling you to stop trying a failed and impossible strategy that has never worked in history, and telling you to roll up your sleeves and get involved in party building and organizing in real life, if you aren't already. If you are, then great, vote if it makes you happy. If you aren't, then you're just repeating the same mistakes reformists have been making for centuries.