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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But China is authoritarian.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's good for the working classes to wield state authority against capitalists and fascists. To not do so would be to allow capitalism to reform, and the alternative is capitalist authority used against the working classes.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And all states are authoritarian, so it loses its explanatory value and is a useless term when used to isolate and describe individual states.

[–] Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I want you to really try to make a singular definition of Authoritarianism and Libertarianism that applies to all examples you would classify as authoritarian or libertarian. Is it theoretically possible for them to exist at the same time in the same place? Would that be a common definition? If not, why is your definition different and more importantly do you have enough evidence to justify having a different definition from the majority of people who use those terms?

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want you to really try to make a singular definition of Authoritarianism and Libertarianism that applies to all examples you would classify as authoritarian or libertarian.

No.

[–] Revolutionary_Apples@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Willful ignorance is not ignorance.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes like every state. Capitalism is entirely based on the violent control of people and things.

[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

China is capitalist in all ways that matter.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you considered doing research and applying analysis before just saying things?

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a cute opinion. Did Epstein give it to you?