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[–] rozodru@piefed.world 159 points 1 day ago (5 children)

automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I'll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for "Ubuntu Pro"? oh get fucked Canonical.

Friends don't let Friends install Ubuntu.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it's grown into a monster. I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Debian is so nice as a server OS. It's also a great alternative for WSL if you're forced to use a Windows computer.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I already run Debian on my desktop and 3 other small servers. I just haven't moved over my main one yet because of the complexity, and procrastination.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

An old PC of mine as been promoted to becoming my first personal server ever and I went for Debian without UI. I've dealt with Ubuntu servers at work for a while. For me Debian felt so incredibly lightweight yet so familiar. I heartily recommend the move for a home server.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian

This works much better if you document into an Ansible playbook. Although some tasks will probably have to be adjusted between the distros.

[–] TheOneCurly@feddit.online 30 points 1 day ago

And they've tied the dependency tree together such that you can't disable them without entirely breaking updates.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even Microsoft hasn't put ads in the terminal I think.

[–] bless@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Shh, don't give them ideas 🙏

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I left Ubuntu some years ago because I wanted apt install a package and it got hijacked by snaps without warning.

I left when they dropped Gnome 2 for Unity. I've been using Mint (with Cinnamon) ever since.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Compared to what's going on on Windows these are such non issues, and yet people are so dramatic about it. I installed Kubuntu almost 15 years ago and I'm on the same install still (going through several PCs with the same disk/image). Disabling snap took me 5 minutes many years ago and was never an issue, another 2 minutes for disabling the Ubuntu Pro message.

Would it be better if these didn't exist? Of course. But when comparing distros, this wouldn't even be worth putting on a list of pros and cons. Is another distro better for your needs? Great. Is Ubuntu better for your needs? Also great, and surely if it is, then it taking 7 minutes longer to setup is not even a factor worth considering?

If a friend had needs that I know Ubuntu fits best, I wouldn't "not let them do it" for some ideological reasons, I'd just tell them to disable snap if they are not aware of it.

This is the silly distro infighting that makes people avoid Linux.

"Friends don't let friends install hyped flavor of the week distros like CachyOS, popOS and Bazzite that will be out of the vogue in 3 years, instead of something that just works" is what I could've said just as well, but how about let people use what they want?